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      That only stops browser activity? What about windows, discord, nvidia, … ? :p
      Those are all blocked on my pihole ( i run both pihole and ublock btw )

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        I guess I just don’t trust Windows discord and Nvidia. I don’t think DNS filtering will protect you if they control the computer

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          Or android, ios, consoles, … :p
          These are all devices pihole can help with that ublock cant. A combination of the 2 is key

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            Well on android you can install browser extensions so that’s not a problem.

            Anyway my point is that Ublock origin can be more than enough for many people who don’t use such devices.

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              Right, but again, thats only browser stuff. If i say android i mean the actual operating system and all applications/services that are running on your phone.
              My point was that ublock is limited to a browser, and there is so much stuff that can be blocked, more than just ads.

              Im not saying ublock is useless, or that average joe shouldnt use it btw. I run it on my phone and pc in firefox, but i also have a pihole for so much more.

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        I’m genuinely curious, to what are you referring when mentioning Windows, Discord, Nvidia, etc.? I know Windows is an entirely separate conversation but do Discord and Nvidia serve ads now and I’m just not seeing it because of my Pihole?

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          sometimes its just blocking telemetry.

          although windows and discord are serving ads now.

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          I use a piHole to block all my IoT devices from sending telemetry data. Roku devices especially, but it’s amazing how many IoT devices try to ping out.

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        You don’t need uBlock if you have a pihole properly configured, but you still need a pihole even if you have uBlock properly configured. uBlock is a half measure. An incomplete solution, but better than nothing.

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          uBlock can do much more refined and targeted blocking than a pihole because it has access to the entire page that is being served and can selectively filter elements. The pihole only has access to the DNS name, and DNS blocking is a rather crude tool to block ads that can be defeated by serving the ads from the same domain.

          For example: a pihole doesn’t work for blocking YouTube ads, because they come from the same domain.

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            pihole doesn’t work for blocking YouTube ads

            It does if I block the entire youtube domain. Checkmate, corps

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          Assuming everyone will have pihole “configured correctly”, not mentioning how to do that, saying you don’t need ublock if you have a pi hole (it does more than black ads). All in all a terrible comment.

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          I migrated to Pi-hole in 2016 so believe me when I say that uBlock Origin is perfectly complimentary because it removes the blank space that is made for ads.

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          Ublock will work if you don’t go and install a bunch of proprietary apps. Also it has the ability to block elements on the DOM so its more effective for web pages.

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          Pihole alone does not block YouTube ads for me.

          Edit: And uBlock alone does not block ads within mobile apps.