• BillDaCatt@kbin.social
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    I think instead of saying “nobody is paying attention” it would be better to say that this kind of rhetoric makes him unfit to serve in any capacity.

    His attempted insurrection has disqualified him from holding any elected office. He should not be on the ballot in any State. The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

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      The only news we should be reading is about him being behind bars, but unfortunately it seems he’ll die before that ever happens

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        I’d be fine with that, too. If his crimes and unethical behavior don’t catch up to him, maybe the “hamberders” will…

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      The only news that we should be reading about Trump is what a sad loser he really is and, in my opinion, has always been.

      You and his dad have something in common.

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        His dad had a large part in creating him, and not just physically.

        Imagine if your father gave you money for everything but zero love and compassion?

        Dad begat a son who is even worse than dad ever was.

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    By “nobody is paying attention” do they mean it’s been plastered all over the news?

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      Yeah people are paying attention they love it. And the rest of us are paying attention and are disgusted.

      The only people not paying attention are the Republican voters who don’t care who the candidate is and just vote Red no matter what.

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      People are paying attention, but most people aren’t taking it anywhere near seriously enough. It’s the equivalent of seing an armed nuclear warhead and thinking pistol.

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        Many are taking it seriously, hence why there are so many posts about it here on lemmy and Reddit and other left leaning social medias. The problem is that his followers like his nazi rhetoric.

        The nazi on The Boys was right “people like what I have to say, they just don’t like the word nazi”, although many Americans don’t even have that problem sadly…

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          I’m not sure exactly, but treating him as just another politician like the media is? That ain’t it.

          He’s a cult leader at the head of a fascist uprising in the most powerful country in the world and most journalists are acting like it’s pretty much business as usual.

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            We’ve been pleading with the media to stop but we are not in control. I’ve done everything in my power to keep them out of my personal space but as long as I consume American products at American retailers they will remain funded and on the air.

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      It’s so crazy how obvious it was in 2015 too.

      It had me wondering one day after hearing the umpteenth Trump supporter sing his praises… Do you think an appreciable number of people like you saw the same obvious things about Mussolini and Hitler before their rises? Do we have some advantage now having seen these people before in the last 100 years? Do we have more casual access to information and history, so it’s more obvious to us now?

      Or is it this: They, like us, had simply not done enough to prevent their rise? Is it really “on you” or is it on all of us?

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        I had history classes on both the rise of fascism and propaganda so it was definitely fresh in my mind while watching it happen. Many places don’t teach these things though so it’s not surprising to me really. I don’t really see how there’s anything we can do to prevent stupid people from being exploited, except through education. Can’t teach someone who isn’t willing to learn though.

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    Everyone is paying attention. His opponents are horrified, and his fanbase is eating it up.

    What do you want to have happen? SPLC to declare the RNC a hate group? Because that’s never going to happen…

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      The conservatives I worked with delighted in it. They called themselves deplorables for years. When someone tells you they are evil, believe them.

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      four of them were stung by the truth, the rest didn’t even know what the word meant.

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    “Nobody is paying attention”

    Meanwhile every article you read and every political meme depicts him as a Nazi. No, I think we are well aware of what he is, dude.

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      You know that interview with Kanye and Alex Jones where Yedolf starts saying a bunch of Nazi shit and Alex tries to coach him on how to dogwhistle it, but Mr Western Cultural Supremacy just starts saying it louder?

      It’s like that. Everyone with a clue beforehand knew what was up, but now even the people with no clue at all can’t honestly deny it, not even the most generously slack-jawed “centrist.”

      Of course, they still will, because they’re not honest, and that’s what some people just can’t wrap their heads around:

      Conservatives aren’t honest, and do not operate on principles of good faith. There are still those who will deny his Nazi rhetoric is Nazi rhetoric, but they’re just lying.

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        Enforcing the status of America as a hegemon has required the export of fascism since the 50s. The way it’s commodified is very similar to how “anti-capitalism” is commodified, it’s not the thing that causes fascism it’s like a cultural manifestation of this.

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      That’s why he does it too, “nobody is paying attention” when it’s the biggest thing helping to define his political brand.

      I think they’re confusing “not paying attention” with “not doing anything.” If the fear is genuine why isn’t there a popular front against Trump? People talk online as though they’re very concerned but you don’t really see anything happening to mount a resistance. Are people signing up to campaign for the Democrats over this, or are they just posting memes about it? Is it that nothing can be done and people feel completely powerless? Maybe everyone is just dug in at this point and we just have to watch this happen. In any case it’s pathetic to constantly hear how worried everyone is about fascist Trump while nothing is done about it. It’s like everyone is just reacting to politics happening and have no political agency of their own.

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      “what he is”… A former president? Because he sure as fuck isn’t a Nazi

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    “…and nobody is paying attention…”

    This is something we read and hear about every single day. Not sure how much more attention we could give it.

    • 𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚛𝚐@lemmy.world
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      The expert sounds like they are hoping that there are some adults within earshot that may suddenly wake up and rein him in.

      It don’t work like that in the really-real world unless it’s extrajudicial.

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      It’s probably outrage bait to drive clicks.

      But to be fair, this is a warning that needs to be heard far and wide, so it’s difficult for me to complain.

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    Literally everyone is paying attention. Half of the population just loves Nazi rhetoric though because it makes them feel like winners, when in reality, they’re a bunch of cousin fuckers with IQs under 95. They don’t understand what the Republican party stands for traditionally, they don’t understand the religion they promote, they don’t understand how their own electoral system works (FPTP w/ EC), and they don’t know a damn thing about history.

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      They don’t understand what the Republican party stands for traditionally

      Freedom. Unlike the Democrats that originally stood for slavery

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    Reality is scarier.

    Trump’s rhetoric is increasingly mirroring Nazi talking points, making him popular among Americans.

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      I marvel that Putin plays with fire like this. Yeah, sure, a Nazi America would make Russia so much safer

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    We’re all paying attention, the problem is that those who vehemently support him just literally don’t care and will vote for him anyway. He wasn’t wrong when he made the comment that he could shoot somebody in the middle of the street and get away with it. He literally orchestrated and attempted coups and got people killed because he threw a temper tantrum and couldn’t stand the thought of not getting his way.

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    We are, we can’t jail or execute him. We have to wait and see if our justice system does it’s job.

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    As usual, centrists and news orgs who don’t want to call out the fascism Nazi parade for what it is don’t want to ostracize the potential Republicans who don’t think they’re Nazis by voting in Nazis.

    Nobody’s paying attention!!! Well, they are and you hear it loud and clear everywhere.

    Democrats are horrified and disgusted, ready to fight tooth and nail. While Republicans are goose stepping their way through the Capital smearing shit on the walls trying to overthrow elections.

    Gotta pretend like there’s still good people voting in Nazis that might change their mind though! Not that they’re voting in greasy BO old man shit smelling fascist dictators because they want fascist dictators.

    And right on time! MiGrAnT CaRaVaNs are being peddled again.