It’s Mickey, but not as you’ve ever seen him before.

A trailer for a slasher film, featuring a masked killer dressed as Mickey Mouse, was released on 1 January, the day that Disney’s copyright on the earliest versions of the cartoon character expired in the US.

“We wanted the polar opposite of what exists,” the movie’s producer said.

A new Mickey-inspired horror game, showing the rodent covered with blood stains, also dropped on the same day.

Steamboat Willie, a 1928 short film featuring early non-speaking versions of Mickey and Minnie, entered the public domain in the US on New Year’s Day.

It means cartoonists, novelists and filmmakers can now rework and use the earliest versions of Mickey and Minnie.

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    People will look back on this era and say, “just because they could have doesn’t mean they should have.

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        I suppose, but it feels more like a cheap cash grab to me.

        If the game or the movie are anything more than mediocre, I’ll reconsider.

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          Oh, it’s undoubtedly that too. But if these characters had entered public domain decades ago like they should have, something similar would have been done and the novelty of beloved characters doing “shocking” things would have worn off.

          Maybe backlash is the wrong word, but their own damn fault at least.

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            It’s definitely Disney’s fault. The original reason they convinced Sonny Bono to extend the copyright act was because it was the home video era and it meant anyone could start selling VHS tapes with Steamboat Willie on them. Now that era is over, so Disney cares a lot less.

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              Look at their acquisitions since the last time they lobbied for an extension…They own Star Wars, Marvel, and Hulu now. They don’t care (about extending the copyright) this time because Steamboat Willie ain’t shit to them (in terms of income) anymore. Mickey Mouse might as well just be the logo for Disneyland/world at this point

              Edit: added stuff in parenthesis to clarify what I’m saying

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                But the landscape has also changed. If people were still buying physical media in large numbers or significantly buying digital media rather than relying on streaming services, Disney would have more money in the game to lose. But no one stands to make money from just trying to sell Steamboat Willie as-is.

                Also, Disney is vicious about defending their trademarks. I think they care about Mickey a hell of a lot more than you think and they will be watching very closely for anything that steps out of line into trademark violation territory regarding Steamboat Willie.

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                  To clarify, I meant that don’t care about fighting to extend the copyright. I see how my wording implies they don’t care about Steamboat Willie so I’ll edit my comment

                  they will be watching very closely for anything that steps out of line into trademark violation territory regarding Steamboat Willie.

                  Definitely agree with you here

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                    Ok, I get you now. I think both your and my factors probably play a part. I’m just glad there’s no major corporation out there left trying to extend copyright law even longer than the ridiculous 70 years after the author’s death that it is now.

                    For much of the 20th century, copyright in the U.S. was 19 years with an option to extend for another 19 when that expired. And it should have stayed that way.

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          This is the exact template for Blood and Honey, really. Put all $10 of your budget into the Public Domain sweetie, pay everyone else with exposure.

          Laugh at the shitty but honest reviews all the way to the bank.

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      I don’t mind a good example being made of this. The original creator(s) are long dead and gone. All the current copyright laws do are prevent innovation and protect money flow of large corporations in my opinion. Is was originally so individuals who came up with new great ideas could reap the rewards of that idea. No longer is that the case.

      “The Copyright Act of 1790 was the first statute in the United States to identify definite provisions of copyright law and permitted authors the right to their intellectual property for a duration of 14 years. Today, depending on the type of work, copyright terms can reach up to 120 years. Historically, Disney has been exceedingly protective of their intellectual property and is a prominent supporter and lobbyist for copyright term extension (Bernaski, 2014). Disney’s involvement in copyright term extension originates from their goal to prevent their copyrights from entering the public domain, specifically their Mickey Mouse character.”

      Source of that quote.

      I say make a good example of them. The creator should benifit from their creations, but ideas should not be stifled for generations to accomplish that.

      Disclaimer: I have not read my source, shame on me if it is counter to my opinion. But corporations are not people, I don’t care what the SC says.

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        Oh I don’t disagree. I think the standard for most of the 20th century- 19 years with an option to renew for another 19, made a lot more sense. I just don’t praise these companies seeing dollar signs because they can capitalize off of a popular work becoming public domain almost the minute it enters the public domain either.

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          I agree fundamentally, but I think, especially with AI faking stuff, we need to get back to people just writing things off as shitty ripoffs and ignoring them. Take away the novelty of it and it’ll go away. Disney made this particular bed. Now they gotta lay in it.

          I for some reason have enough faith in humanity that once we how dumb this all plays out some realistic rules can be put in place.

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            I don’t think we are in disagreement here at all. We’re talking about two different things. You’re talking about Disney rightfully getting hurt by this and I’m talking about the people who are going to be using this potentially amazing opportunity in what is likely to be an extremely lazy way like that Winnie the Pooh slasher film.

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      Just because Disney could lobby to make copyright law insanely long doesn’t mean they should have. It wouldn’t have been s big event if Disney didn’t make it one.

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        I’m not talking about copyright law, and if you read a tiny bit further down, you would see that I talked multiple times about the problem with modern copyright law and Disney’s part in it.

        Shitty copyright law doesn’t mean we have to have shitty movies and shitty video games.