Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

We Asked A.I. to Create the Joker. It Generated a Copyrighted Image.::Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

  • Jilanico@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Looking at a copyrighted font with your computer means the font is in your computer’s memory. Do I go to jail for every site I visit that uses a fancy font?

    Font files ≠ framebuffer

    Images ≠ neural network weights

    • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Do I go to jail for every site I visit that uses a fancy font?

      If its a fancy copyrighted font without a license to copy… the Website owner gets sued. Because the website owner is the one making mass copies of said font.

      Do… you know what copyrites are? They relate to the copying of data.

      • Jilanico@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        10 months ago

        The framebuffer on your computer copies the data to display the font to you. That’s my point. Not every form of copying infringes on copyright.

        • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          10 months ago

          And my argument is that Midjourney’s servers are engaged in illegal copying. So I think your point is moot. Not the Web Browsers downloading images.

          The movie Joker’s image is being copied each time the training weights are copied to a new server. Is that not an illegal copy?

          • Jilanico@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            10 months ago

            When you look at a picture of the joker online, your browser is caching an image file of the joker on your computer. Is that not an illegal copy?

            • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              10 months ago

              What the hell is this non-sequitur?

              What do browser caches have to do with Midjourney servers and training weights?

              I get that you wanna change the subject. But I dunno if it’s because you don’t understand my argument, or if you’ve realized that my argument is solid and therefore you have no actual counterargument.

              The copy that people care about are the webservers. That’s why when you run Bittorrent, MPAA or RAII sue the people serving the data. Not the people who use the data. Have you followed any copyright case in the last two or three decades? In this case, it’d be a copyright case vs Midjourney servers.

              • Jilanico@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                10 months ago

                I really do not believe midjourney is storing all the files on the Internet in a humongous database. They are just exposing the AI to them for training just like you expose your computer to them when you visit with your web browser. I’m happy to be wrong about this, but I’m just not convinced. Please try to keep your temper.

                • dragontamer@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  10 months ago

                  I really do not believe midjourney is storing all the files on the Internet in a humongous database.

                  Are you sure?

                  The training weights can literally recreate images its been trained on. That makes them a humongous database, albeit with lossy compression. They aren’t replicated exactly, but they are replicated enough that I’m confident that these “Joker” images passes as copyright infringement before a jury (ie: is substantially similar).

                  • Jilanico@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                    10 months ago

                    That makes them a humongous database

                    I understand why you’re saying that, but I personally don’t agree. As AIs face legal challenges, maybe your opinion will be adopted, we’ll see.