What makes it even more crazy is 90% of projects are using github/gitlab/gitea or some other modern git platform that literally has a wiki feature built in. And everyone and their dog either knows or could very quickly learn how to use markdown to write the wiki.
If you want a chatroom at least use matrix as it’s open source and privacy respecting. Though IRC is better for a community. And good old forums are best.
Element X for iOS, all right! Seemed to sync in ~5 Mississippi (~seconds) just now after setting it up when you first commented. Still some issues but seemingly better. Thanks!
I will never understand “forums are best”. I’ve tried, but they are worse in just about every aspect compared to any other communication system I’ve seen.
The good thing about forums is that, once a problem is addressed, the solution remains there and is indexed by search engines for everyone to see. You can say anything about forums, but I doubt you never fixed some issue by looking at some old forum thread, without even having to bother anyone.
I have definitely solved the odd issue from forums… but only because forums were the only thing available. Reading through them is still a chore and a half. Especially when 90% of the posts are “has anyone found a solution for this yet” ad nauseum that you still have to scroll through to eventually (maybe) find the page with the post you actually need.
I may just be bad at forums, but that’s been my experience with them for the last 20+ years.
If you want to learn from a number of car enthusiasts how to address one specific error code with one specific model of car, is there anything better than finding a five page long forum thread and reading a few dozen posts about it from the last few years?
So like… “Forums are a good communication technology for modern use” and “have you ever found a solution in a forum” are different things.
As a counterexample, I’ve had more luck finding weird ass computer hardware issue solutions by appending ‘reddit’ to a search string than just about anything else. On the other hand I’ve wasted hours and hours on forum threads that go nowhere, with a million dead ends, and terminates in “see this other thread for the actual answer” and then that thread is archived or otherwise inaccessible.
I’ve tried to use matrix… Is there a good matrix client? Like, one with admin commands? Maybe I just didn’t “get” it, but it seemed not even yet half baked.
What makes it even more crazy is 90% of projects are using github/gitlab/gitea or some other modern git platform that literally has a wiki feature built in. And everyone and their dog either knows or could very quickly learn how to use markdown to write the wiki.
If you want a chatroom at least use matrix as it’s open source and privacy respecting. Though IRC is better for a community. And good old forums are best.
Open Element iOS
Start stopwatch
Syncing completes
Stop stopwatch
I have eight rooms added to the Matrix client! And Lemmings tell me it’s not Element, things are just slow.
Hoping they were wrong and I’m doing something wrong or this is totally atypical (e.g. connected to a really slow server).
FOSS is worth tradeoffs. Unindexable corporate software is regressive. But! Need some more speed over here! Individual chats/rooms are slow/buggy too.
try element x, on android it opens almost instantly. still in beta though
Ohh thought you misread and didn’t realize it’s available on iOS until someone else commented. Success, thanks!
That’s the “historic matrix / element”
Use newer ones with sliding sync capabilities
Element X for iOS, all right! Seemed to sync in ~5 Mississippi (~seconds) just now after setting it up when you first commented. Still some issues but seemingly better. Thanks!
I will never understand “forums are best”. I’ve tried, but they are worse in just about every aspect compared to any other communication system I’ve seen.
People just like what they like, I guess.
The good thing about forums is that, once a problem is addressed, the solution remains there and is indexed by search engines for everyone to see. You can say anything about forums, but I doubt you never fixed some issue by looking at some old forum thread, without even having to bother anyone.
I have definitely solved the odd issue from forums… but only because forums were the only thing available. Reading through them is still a chore and a half. Especially when 90% of the posts are “has anyone found a solution for this yet” ad nauseum that you still have to scroll through to eventually (maybe) find the page with the post you actually need.
I may just be bad at forums, but that’s been my experience with them for the last 20+ years.
Definitely use case specific.
If you want to learn from a number of car enthusiasts how to address one specific error code with one specific model of car, is there anything better than finding a five page long forum thread and reading a few dozen posts about it from the last few years?
So like… “Forums are a good communication technology for modern use” and “have you ever found a solution in a forum” are different things.
As a counterexample, I’ve had more luck finding weird ass computer hardware issue solutions by appending ‘reddit’ to a search string than just about anything else. On the other hand I’ve wasted hours and hours on forum threads that go nowhere, with a million dead ends, and terminates in “see this other thread for the actual answer” and then that thread is archived or otherwise inaccessible.
Is GitHub wiki still garbage or did they make it easy for anyone to contribute to?
It’s a git repo you can make PRs into
wait since when?
Not sure, always has been since I’ve used them
https://docs.github.com/en/communities/documenting-your-project-with-wikis/adding-or-editing-wiki-pages#adding-or-editing-wiki-pages-locally
still garbage
Correct me if Im wrong but only contributors can edit the wiki. If I remember correctly you cant just do a PR to the wiki. Which is sad.
It’s possible to allow anyone to edit a Github wiki. But I’m not sure whether edit permission can be set per page or wiki wide.
I’ve tried to use matrix… Is there a good matrix client? Like, one with admin commands? Maybe I just didn’t “get” it, but it seemed not even yet half baked.