My job here is done.

My kids are millennias l:)

Ask them if they think North Korea is a democracy

First they came for the Communists …

Probably not. Atheistic fundamentalists are still fundamentalists. Their thinking is just as flawed

It’s a lot deeper than that.

Since the 70s, there’s been a couple lines in their Book of Discipline (central doctrine and interpretation) that say that people are to be loved, but the practice is homosexuality is “inconsistent with Christian teaching”. We progressives have been trying to take that back out but the “traditionalists” play legislative games to prevent and real debate. On the flip side, it says nothing about trans people because progressives play the same games too keep their bigoted crap out.

Back in 2019 the UMC held a special General Conference to address the issue. The traditionalists paired up with churches from Africa and a couple other places to make things worse but also created an easy way to leave the denomination. Right after, they started the GMC denomination and started leaving the UMC . IOW, they shit the bed and then moved out.

It’s really screwed up because the US congregations tend to be affirming and are shirking while the overseas congregations are more traditional but growing. They had the long term advantage. I think they just wanted to burn it all down. Think Steve Bannon and his desire to destroy the US government

They also published two formal documents in support of Roe right after it was decided.

All that was before the fundamentalists took over and drove all the centrists and progressives out and made themselves an arm of the GOP. Ref. also: Moral Majority and Southern Strategy and the fundamentalist takeover of the NRA all around the same time.

Go ahead and ignore all the ex-Christians who said they were driven away by this very topic and your toxic approach. It’s your eternity.

Rev 22 is applied to the whole Bible by people that actually believe it.

If you actually believed it, you’d pay attention to what it says instead of what some person told you. I’ll trust the Holy Bible over malicious people who just want to control others.

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Are you lying or ignorant? How we proceed will depend on that. I mean there’s no sin in being ignorant unless it’s intentional, so that’s the right choice.

1. Irrelevant to the question at hand. Either that line from the book of Revelation applies to Revelation only, or to the entire bible when Revelation was written. Given that the Holy Bible wasn’t defined at that point … the latter is impossible.
2. Depends on your definition of “inspired”. Given your other attitudes, I probably won’t agree with your take on this.

Arrogant, self-centered, intolerant, intentionally ignorant bullshit.

Look, I’m a Christian and I can tell you this kind of stuff creates more atheists and anti-theists that I can count. It takes me FOREVER to get someone to listen to me because of drivel like this. This “everyone else is evil” makes people run away. There is NOTHING attractive about your faith because you only show derision and hate. There is no love. There is no inclusion into the body of Christ. There is no tolerance for anyone not like you. This attitude is of Satan and the blood of every person you drive away from God with it will be on your hands come judgement day.

Those are unrelated. The first one is only about the book of revelation.

Your “which, in turn” is invalid.

There is morality without religion. And there is terrible immorality with religion.

In other news, the sun is up during daytime

What I don’t get is that if that’s what people want … they’ll vote for Trump