• aname
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    601 month ago

    Russia turned out to be world’s best paper tiger

    • @Madison420@lemmy.world
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      181 month ago

      That’s probably still China, lots of money invested but their actual combat movements look horrific. Their special forces are legit very good though.

      • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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        1 month ago

        A billion people and the largest basic manufacturing capability full stop scares the bejesus out of me, I don’t care if they can’t march straight.

        I also have no reason to expect they’re anywhere near as incompetent. Probably just normal dictatorship levels.

        • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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          31 month ago

          Yeah they don’t need a big military. They can just call in debt or flip off the manufacturing switch that supplies the rest of the world and they’ve already mostly won.

          • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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            30 days ago

            I really hope we in the West wouldn’t just fold the moment “ABBEXA childrens plastic bucket fun water toy for family” gets cut off, but the thing about civilian manufacturing is that it can be converted to military manufacturing. One moment it’s making buckets, the next it’s making covers for mines. And, the sector isn’t even bad quality anymore; it’s not as good as CNC nerds in Germany, but their stuff will work at a basic level and arrive on schedule. Meanwhile, the need to supply Ukraine has exposed that our own manufacturing, while advanced and awesome, doesn’t scale very easily.

            It’s all a bit academic because of MAD, but the main reason I think we’d have a shot in a conventional war is that the professionals seem to think we’d have a shot.

            • sunzu
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              130 days ago

              West GDP 69x Russia… where are those guys when we failed to deliver art shells to the point where Ukraine started taking Ls

      • @SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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        51 month ago

        That’s what tends to happen when you don’t invade anyone for forty years. We should all strive to have China’s level of military readiness.

          • sunzu
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            130 days ago

            Well it seems once you have perma standing army, they always find a way to use for some dumb shit to make current ruling clowns and their oligarchs some money. Not sure how this can be stopped when civilian decision makers are as corrupt as the military and colluding to fuck over US taxpayers and kill foreign nationals for profit.

            Alternative is the paying big money and not getting anything in return like Germany but that only works because we have 40k troops stationed in Germany to protect it against Russia.