Chris Gloninger wove the reality of global heating into his forecasts in the conservative heartland of Iowa. Not everyone was receptive.

  • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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    11 year ago

    We’ve had an ice age.

    What doesn’t say the orbit of the planet or its angle to the Sun can’t make the pendulum swing the other way?

    I fine w/ going green, I wish we had more light rail in the US. It was nice when I worked in DC and got to read a book on the way into work. I was a hell of a lot more physically active.

    • Flying Squid
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      61 year ago

      The orbit of the planet or the angle of the sun have nothing to do with it. The billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.

      Or do you think that has no effect? If so, I’d love you to explain to me about the chemical neutrality of CO2 and methane.

      • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        But we came out of an ice age w/o as you say “billions of tons of carbon dioxide and methane we pump into the atmosphere does.”

        Something changed.

        • Flying Squid
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          41 year ago

          Temperature was going up gradually until the industrial revolution. Now it’s going up drastically. What changed is the amount of CO2 and methane we’re putting into the atmosphere.

          Again, if you don’t agree, please explain how they are chemically neutral.

          • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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            11 year ago

            So you admit that there outside factors that determine the temperature of the planet. Ok we are getting somewhere, and again I will reiterate I would like us to knock off pollution if we can do it sanely.

            But what if the changes (outside man made) are exponential? As the the orbit changes or the tilt changes it goes up in orders of magnitude. Is this not possible? I work w/ spacecraft and orbits aren’t a constant. All matter/mass/celestial bodies in the solar system have gravitational influence and changes orbits.

            • Flying Squid
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              31 year ago

              I’m waiting for you to explain how CO2 and methane are chemically neutral. Please do so. Otherwise they have an effect on the atmosphere.

              • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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                11 year ago

                Methane and CO2 are naturally formed compounds and like any compound in the atmosphere they have an effect. I was talking out other outside forces that could be accelerating these changes.

                • Flying Squid
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                  31 year ago

                  If they have an effect and we’re pumping tons of it into the atmosphere in a NOT natural way, then it sounds like that effect would be magnified greatly.

                  What effect do you think CO2 and methane have on our atmosphere?

                  • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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                    11 year ago

                    Again you are going off point, I posted could there be other factors? We got out of an ice age w/o human involvement as the Earth warmed, could there not be an exponential heating of the Earth that has nothing to do w/ co2/methane levels? Maybe this is the cycle of our planet.

    • @tallwookie@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      technically, we’ve been in an ice age for the last 2.5 million years or so. it just gets slightly warmer or colder every few 10000 years