• xradeon
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    11 months ago

    The private key would have to stored in clear text somewhere. Potentially if you had non volatile space on cpu that to store the private key, that might work. But if you’re going to do that, might as well just use an ftpm.

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      11 months ago

      Right and not to mention pairing the cpu and tpm for key exchange to avoid mitm attacks…

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        11 months ago

        You can’t do that since vulnerability is the connection between the TPM and the CPU, you need to encrypt that path.

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          11 months ago

          Pretty sure they meant if you need to keep a persistent public/private pair you can keep them in the tpm and initiate the exchange from there

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            11 months ago

            That’s correct. I’m guessing if it hasn’t been implemented yet, then there is some technical roadblock I’m currently missing.

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          11 months ago

          The TPM comes out from the factory with a private key stored in it. The CPU has the public key.

          You turn on the laptop for the first time, and the communication between the CPU and the TPM is encrypted from the start.

          That’s what I’m referring to. Can’t this be done? I’m guessing it’s not that easy because I’m sure computer designers have already considered this idea.

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      11 months ago

      Just generate one anew. You don’t need to use the same one each time

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        11 months ago

        What do you mean by that? Generate a new private/public key pair every time you setup a new TPM? Or when you boot the system or something?

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          11 months ago

          On each connection. Or boot. Whenever you need

          Edit: to be clear, this would still be vulnerable to mitm attacks without a user entered password on top but at least you can’t just read the secrets from the bus. E2: And having a password wouldn’t be fully secure without such a scheme neither