President Joe Biden had conspiracy theorists in a tizzy after posting what appeared to be his reaction to the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl win on Sunday night.

“Just like we drew it up,” Biden posted on X alongside a photo of “Dark Brandon,” the meme created by hardcore—and very online—supporters of Donald Trump that Biden and his team loved so much they adopted it as their own.

The post was apparently referencing far-right conspiracy theories which posit the NFL and high-level government operatives conspired to rig the Super Bowl in Kansas City’s favor to give maximum exposure to a yet-to-be-announced endorsement from Chiefs star Travis Kelce and his girlfriend Taylor Swift.

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    It’s not because we don’t think problems should be talked about, it’s that you’re comparing a functional adult to Trump and acting like you can’t tell the difference. I’ll help, there’s only one real difference: Biden isn’t a fucking traitor. That’s the one that we care about.

    So drop the act, bud. This one is too simple even for the dullards like me to forget: Trump is a traitor, Biden is not, and we don’t vote for traitors.

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      Nope

      Biden is a better president than trump, that’s indisputable.

      That doesn’t mean Biden is good enough to be president.

      Hell, I don’t even know you, but I fell confident you’re better than trump. If you wouldn’t support a genocide, I’d say you’re a better option than both of them.

      It’s a pretty low bar, lots of potential candidates not only would be a better president, but more importantly have a better chance of winning the election.

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        Hey, I want AOC to run, but until then I’m not going to discourage people from voting for the only candidate who’s not going to piledrive the US headfirst into the dirt.

        So again, drop the act. Yeah you want a better candidate than Biden, great; that’s not the choice. The choice is Biden or Trump. If you don’t vote for Biden, your voting for Trump. If you don’t believe that fine, stop reading; if you do, there’s nothing more to say anyway.

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          You still don’t get it…

          This is the same shit we went thru with Hillary.

          Biden is unpopular. He will depress turnout. Depressed turnout is how republican presidents are made.

          I hope some day you get that, but I’m not explaining it again.

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          So maybe after trump wins this time you guys will meet us on the side of supporting a president that isn’t sending bombs to kill innocent children.

          If you keep letting them support genocidal actions win the vote when someone else would have easily won just by not supporting genocidal actions, then you get what you deserve.

          Have fun dealing with your shit sandwich, maybe after trump 2 electric boogaloo y’all will stop supporting the killing of innocent babies

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            Trump absolutely sent bombs to kill children. Sometimes he even authorized the drone strikes himself. Trump has also proven to be a massive supporter of Israel so I don’t see why people think it would be better or even different with Trump.

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              Plus he’s a rapist and a traitor, and a racketeer, a compulsive liar, narcissist and many other terrible things we should never see in a president.

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              Did we lose 10,000 of them directly because of his actions?

              Or did we lose those because Biden decided to directly support Israel?

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                As opposed to every president the US has had since the 1940s? Quit avoiding the question. Do you honestly believe it would be better under Trump? Or can you be honest and admit it would most likely be even worse and that he would also let Russia steamroll Ukraine?

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                  Do I honestly believe it I don’t know. It would probably be better for us in America if Biden won.

                  But here’s the thing I don’t care what the rest of the presidents did

                  It was wrong when they did it. It’s wrong now.

                  Does them doing something else wrong make it right for me to do something wrong?

                  How many dollars per life are you willing to trade before you say fuck you were not supporting any of y’all give us something real.

                  Long-term, maybe trump 2 will wake people the fuck up like we thought they did with a version one.

                  See the problem was people look at Trump and think oh we beat him. It’s over and they don’t remember how bad it was.

                  So now it’s time to make it bad again today so they remember more next time.

                  You’re asking us to stand with you, but saying what we care about doesn’t matter.

                  If y’all don’t care about any of us, why would we stand with you?

                  I won’t stand with them either.

                  Fuck you both, figure it out yourselves.

                  I’m not going to be with you to keep the status quo. I want something better.

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                    Trump is the end of democracy in the US. Not something better. You’re either a disingenuous troll or there is something seriously wrong with your brain. Blocked.

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                We don’t actually know because the Trump administration removed transparency on drone attacks. Could’ve been 5000. Could be 20000. It certainly does not bode well that they hid that.

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        They’re not mutually exclusive and Trump will do the same or worse as has already been seen.

        Also, you’re wrong.

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            This is a perfect example of why you shouldn’t be taken seriously. The idea that Biden is supporting genocide and that Trump didn’t and/or won’t is absurd on its face. There’s nothing wrong with criticizing Biden or his administration, but you’re misleading (at best) when you act like Biden is the greater threat. He’s not. That’s an objective fact. Anyone arguing otherwise is not operating in good faith.

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                History hasn’t happened? Trump didn’t enable a shitload of dictators already? He hasn’t constantly expressed adoration for authoritarians around the world? He hasn’t explicitly stated he would do the same thing again? Trump, the person who was so tough on Bibi? Trump, the person who moved our embassy in Israel?

                It’s like history reset the moment Biden was inaugurated. All the horrible awful shit Trump has and will continue to enable doesn’t matter anymore for some reason (or it straight up didn’t happen apparently). You’re living in a completely different reality than the rest of the planet I guess?

                If you said “Biden is bad because of X and Trump is worse because of Y” we’d be having a totally different conversation, but you don’t want to do that do you? You said none of it happened. You don’t want to make that comparison because it shows us one of two things (maybe both idk):

                1. You feel that GOP control of our government is better than Democrats.
                2. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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                  Fuck Trump and fuck Biden. They are both public toilets waiting to happen.

                  Show me someone else, oh wait even ducking Biden admits 50 other democrats could beat trump.

                  We all know that you guys will vote for whoever it is, so that means that y’all are sticking with him.

                  I assume out of fear, you could run a fucking solid commie against trump and it wouldn’t change his fucking stats much.

                  This is an anti trump fucking fight and the figurehead doesn’t matter, you are proving that right now, and could have run anyone and the people whose main goal is “not trump” would not change.

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                    Show me someone else, oh wait even ducking Biden admits 50 other democrats could beat trump.

                    None of which ran. You’re absolutely right, the figurehead doesn’t matter at this point. That’s why spending all of your time bitching about Biden, who is the most viable option RIGHT NOW, and completely ignoring that there is literally one other option is pointless. You’re just trying to convince people the best of two bad options is still bad. Everyone knows that. How is that productive? There is not a single progressive candidate that can win the 2024 general election for president. This has already happened. You cannot change your options for 2024. There is Biden or Trump. Those are your options for the general election. You don’t like Biden, great. Join myself and all the others working on primarying conservative Democrats (like Joe Biden) out of the party.

                    And again, if you think Biden and Trump are equal threats: you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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            You do realize that Israel was not suddenly funded and armed by the US when Biden was elected, right? Trump’s administration gave them plenty of money and weapons, and showed strong support for Netanyahu. He empowered an apartheid regime, and when recently asked about the Palestinian genocide, he said he wouldn’t accept any Palestinian refugees.

            So, your position puts you in favor of denying Palestinian refugees while their genocide continues. You’d prefer for Trump to have a genocide of 1.5 (or whatever denying genocide refugees would be worth numerically) vs Biden at 1, because Trump happened to not be in power when Israel decided to use their weapons from the US to ramp up airstrikes.

            Oh! And you are aware that this genocide has been going on for a while now right? Not just since 2021? So Trump was not only in support of a genocide, he was buddy buddy with Netanyahu. At least Biden seems to hate the man.

            I truly don’t understand your logic. You’ve willfully contorted yourself to give Trump a pass to instead criticize Biden.

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              Fuck Donald Trump. Is that clear enough for you?

              I never thought Biden’s was that great of a present, but he was exactly what I expected, a middle of the line milquetoast gonna pull off what he can thing.

              Then he kept giving weapons to the Israelis, I can’t forgive that.

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        But trump also supports Israel and thinks Israel should have exclusive claim over Jerusalem??!

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        Is correct point of view, though. Many people see great leader like Putin and agree that elections of weak Biden are not good. I too am a concerned Leftie Swift who is also transgender and of color.

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        They’re both poop, so just preferring the smell of one steaming pile over the other doesn’t make it better. Turning and burning in the sun and fertilize healthier crops may.

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          Biden has been one of the most progressive presidents in decades. But you didn’t get your cookies and milk, so he’s poop. Got it.