• TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
    22·
    1 year ago

    Saying cities were ‘destroyed’ is a bit hyperbolic. Even the cities with the craziest riots, like Portland just had a block of the city dedicated to it. The Capital Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), that the news used to make Portland Seattle look like a warzone, only covered 2 intersections of the city.

    Edit: The CHAZ/CHOP was in Seattle, not Portland.

    • CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space
      11·
      1 year ago

      I think the point they were making was that someone whose home, safety, or means of income were damaged or destroyed would have a different perspective than someone who wasn’t adversely affected, regardless of the big picture.

      • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        1 year ago

        Oh I agree with that statement, the original comment just needs to be narrowed down. Nobody’s city was destroyed. Some people had their business properties destroyed, but I imagine most of the shops that were broken or burned had some sort of insurance, and most of them avoided bankruptcy.

        I do feel bad for anyone whose livelihood was affected by that, though. I think a lot of the rioters’ anger was misplaced. I especially feel bad for any of smaller businesses that were affected. Walmart and Target can handle all of their stores being burned, but your local mom and pop shop might not bounce back from that.

        • Drusas@kbin.social
          5·
          1 year ago

          The problem is you framing protesters as rioters. There were relatively very few rioters and a lot of them were simply opportunists who would have been rioting regardless of what the protests were about. Bad actors exist everywhere.

          • SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net
            1·
            1 year ago

            It was the riots that most people I know of had problems with. The violence, the destruction of property (500 million dollars in Minneapolis alone, which is a lot), Secoriea Turner, an 8 year old little girl who was shot to death during protests for the crime of her parents trying to turn the car around in a Wendy’s parking lot. And the opportunistic looting done in the name of the “protests” and defended in the establishment media (how many news and opinion shows had that piece of garbage who wrote the book “In defense of looting” on?)

            On the other hand, I was uncharitable in both my examples. Do you think the Canadian truckers were trying to secretly clone Hitler?

            • Drusas@kbin.social
              2·
              1 year ago

              I never said anything about the truckers and you’re making yourself sound insane. Try to stay focused.

              Also, the establishment media largely also demonized protesters, just not nearly as much as Faux News did.

              • SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net
                1·
                1 year ago

                In the same post you’re whining about, I said that the trucker protesters were trying to secretly clone Hitler. Apparently you missed that there was all kinds of hyperbole.

    • Drusas@kbin.social
      7·
      1 year ago

      CHAZ was in Seattle and it was massively overblown by the media. I live here. It was like two square blocks and mostly full of young people treating it like a festival.

      • Derproid@lemm.ee
        1·
        1 year ago

        i imagine some of the people that lived there before CHAZ didn’t feel the same way.

        • Drusas@kbin.social
          1·
          1 year ago

          It was a park area. There were some apartments overlooking, but mostly public space.

          And most of Seattle saw them as an afterthought, not some huge issue like Fox News made them out to be.

    • jeffw@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 year ago

      Also worth noting that a study show a lot of the violence was started by cops, and then people reciprocated. Another study noted 90-95% of the protests were peaceful.

      Only bigots call them riots, to push a political narrative.

    • SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net
      3·
      1 year ago

      A friend of mine was giving a play by play of the destruction in Minneapolis and St. Paul, and the way she described losing some of those buildings and the meaning some of them held was heartbreaking.

      I thought about my own city, and there’s a lot of really old mom and pops that, if some mob burned the building down, are never going to be rebuilt. My city like the areas of many of those cities, are economically depressed, most things we have out there are 70 years old from the economic good times back when the factories were still running.

      It’s easy to discount when it isn’t something you care about being destroyed, but think about it it was your favorite restaurant, favorite gaming bar, favorite corner store or book store. You can say it doesn’t matter, but it matters a whole lot to someone.