Protesting police brutality respectfully and nonverbally
Telling young women that they will only be truly happy if they are homemakers during their commencement ceremony and that anything else is “diabolical lies” meant to have you stray from god’s path
How are these in any way equivalent
They aren’t equivalent. And to conservatives, the second one is to be praised and the first one is to be damned.
One of them is professing a personal belief elevated into the national discourse by an individual at the end of his athletics career. The other is a sponsored advertisement by the ruling elite voiced through a paid shill, as a means of self-promotion. That’s really the nut of it.
Butker sits on the board of a private home schooling program that directly profits from the reactionary turn against public education. He’s filling the proper American role of getting that bag. He’s giving these speeches and cultivating a social media following in order to pitch more of his Christian flavored self-help materials. He’s got investors who stand to make a mint themselves, and so use their connections to boost his media presence. All for the aim of separating fools from their money.
Kaepernick originally filled that role as a QB, when he was quietly tossing a ball around for the entertainment of high dollar ticket holders. But as soon as he started taking a knee and yapping his yap, he cut into people’s bottom lines. The NFL leadership didn’t like their image as apolitical national past time infringed. The police and national military didn’t like one of their major advertising and recruiting partners going off script. The sports news shows didn’t like the possibility of losing advertisers.
The real equivalence is in the flow of that $$$
I’m not as free as y’all Americans (from Europe): Context for the guy on the left?
Kicker for the US football team Chiefs based in Kansas City gave a commencement speech where he laid out a bunch of misogynistic and homophobic bullshit including the equivalent of “women belong in the kitchen” and is getting defended by conservatives as speaking to family values or whatever they call that bullshit now.
Sounds like you know about the guy on the right already, but for anyone else that might not know he was simply kneeling to bring attention to racism and was vilified by those same conservatives.
A white man was applauded while a black man was attacked.
Does that cover it?
While race certainly played a part with the reaction to Kaepernick, that doesn’t mean this guy got a free pass for being white. Conservatives would have defended someone of any race who spouted misogynist word vomit.
I mean, conservatives defend the murderer Kyle Rittenhouse.
They defend him because they like the idea of shooting liberal protesters in the street. “Murderer” is not a mark of shame to them.
I do love how they defend him in part by saying he killed a convicted sex offender as if he could have possibly known that and as if that were his (or anyone’s) job to do.
That’s because for Conservatives you’re allowed to take lives to protect property. You are not allowed to damage property to protect lives.
Really shows where their values are.
Good point.
Is Colin Kaepernick black in America? I can see he wears his hair long now but in the UK you’d just say he looks vaguely mixed race. Very Caucasian features actually, kind of looks French-Algerian.
Being light skinned doesn’t make him less “black”
That’s hilarious, I will never understand America.
What else would make him less black?
You don’t understand:
A white woman can have a black baby.
A black woman cannot have a white baby.This is very normal and makes perfect sense. Stop looking at it closely.
There’s the “One Drop rule.” (Wikipedia)
"The one-drop rule was a legal principle of racial classification that was prominent in the 20th-century United States. It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry (“one drop” of “black blood”)[1][2] is considered black (Negro or colored in historical terms). It is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status, regardless of proportion of ancestry in different groups.[3]
This concept became codified into the law of some U.S. states in the early 20th century.[4] It was associated with the principle of “invisible blackness”[5] that developed after the long history of racial interaction in the South, which had included the hardening of slavery as a racial caste system and later segregation. Before the rule was outlawed by the Supreme Court in the Loving v. Virginia decision of 1967, it was used to prevent interracial marriages and in general to deny rights and equal opportunities and uphold white supremacy."
It asserted that any person with even one ancestor of black ancestry
I think that means technically everyone is Black.
The thing is it’s not about being “black”, it’s about not being white.
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You are not wrong, but I think you are missing the point a bit. What everyone in the thread is saying is that he got no pushback from conservatives. And instead they are defending him like they are in a cult lol. So the fact that normal people like us do attack him, like he deserves, is beyond the point of the conversation.
I’m assuming you are just confused here lol, maybe you are trolling to derail the conversation. That’s why people are downvoting you, sadly a lot of people who argue in bad faith sound like you.
“attacked”=people online expressing (strong) disagreement with his words. Poor thing, how will he ever recover with his millions of dollars and sheltered life! Get back to me when he’s run out of the NFL for his words.
Almost makes you associate racism and misogyny with the conservatism ideology…… almost. I’m sure a few more instances like this will solidify it for more people? Maybe?
They can’t say Christian values anymore, so they say family values. Anytime you hear family values, they mean Christian values.
Family values, common sense, freedom caucus, and any other thing that sounds like it should be positive but is run by conservatives is the opposite of whatever the name is.
Don’t forget the other crazy part. His own mother is a medical physicist that is the complete opposite of his definition of what he believes women should be. I was going to say those head injuries are true, then I realized he is only a kicker…
A kicker in American Football, who recently gave a speech at a Catholic College and said women will find more joy and fulfillment from being a stay at home mom than in a career.
He also said a bunch of other terrible stuff about women in the speech too, but yeah, that is the part that made the headlines.
Who only got where he was because of his mother’s physics career.
(from Europe)
Lol waaaay more free then mate
I was a bit cheeky there ;)
It’s right in the name. Conservatives want to preserve the status quo. Injustice is part if the status quo. I’m no logician but I think that means they’re on team injustice.
“Free speech” isn’t the problem though? Butker has a stupid worldview, and Kaepernick was raising awareness of a real and important issue.
They can say whatever they want without retaliation from the government, and that’s freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not freedom from ridicule or consequences from other people.
It’s not some fundamental question if rights. It’s very simple: your ideas are shit, so we don’t like you and think you should shut up.
Who is player a here? The dude on the left I mean.
Non American but even I know the right guy. Kapperknack.
Ah I saw this AH last week.
Another religious fundamentalist, that does nothing remotely in line with what any religion teaches.
exactly!!!
Something equally disgusting from the rightwing is when townships and police department officials talk about how big of a threat Fentanyl exposure is to officers.
There is only one crowd of people parroting that BS, and it’s the crowd who think Derek Chauvin was justified in murdering George Floyd.
“Freedom is always the freedom of the majority” – Elon Musk, probably
“Free speech” is code by the right wing for more of their cancel culture. They want to silence criticism. For them “free speech” is a one-way street meant to force you to listen to their bullshit.
Funny enough from the picture you can’t see who the writer indicates as a and b.
This is the problem though. Yeah, the white dude talking about woman requiring a kitchen is a sad asshole, but quite a few people really do think and believe it’s normal, and see the other dude kneeling as a severe insult.
How do you communicate, with that in mind?
In all fairness though. One was litteraly invited to speak. And I haven’t heard anyone call him brave (though I am sure someone somewhere did). So I don’t blame orgs like the nfl and such having little to say. And frankly we should be talking more about the place that thought it was a good idea to invite him to speak… avoid graduates of that place like they have the plague.
