as an aside in the latest Trillbillies episode Terrence said that we need degrowth communism and it got me wondering what that means to everyone. to hopefully stifle any silly debates i’ll clarify that i’m talking about the West, not underdeveloped/overexploited nations in the Global South.

an end to oil drilling, gas extraction, and coal mining will obviously be necessary to stop climate change. how much modern technology can we replicate without relying on those things or other ecologically violent resource extraction? what does an agriculture system that doesn’t rely on petrochem-derived fertilizers and herbicides look like? how do we repair the immense damage that’s already been done?

i’d really appreciate some book recommendations on this topic as well as everyone’s thoughts

  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
    13·
    6 months ago

    scammers, speculators, rentiers, consultants, crypto, ai, marketing, propagandists, surveillance, weapons development… i feel like we could go on for an hour

    ooth ‘email jobs’ just describe an environment work takes place in, some people in cubicle email jobs are involved in pro-social work, i assume.

    • radiofreeval [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      3·
      6 months ago

      My concern is that this kind of labor doesn’t generate huge carbon emissions (sans ML, weapons, and commutes) and the majority of jobs that need to go are industrialized or logistics jobs that are critical. I didn’t think getting rid of marketing would save much carbon.

      • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        6 months ago

        on the contrary, liquidating marketers would net the largest decrease in hot air ever seen garf-troll

        emissions are half the equation tho, GDP counts these things and decoupling the idea GDP & the per capita to actual living standards is important for a degrowth conversation. no humans would hurt from the billions lost in ‘value’ in marketing