Russia says Ukraine targeted Moscow with drones on Sunday, the latest in a series of attacks that have brought the Ukraine war to Russia’s capital.

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    That is not what has ever happened at any point in time historically, I actually can’t think of a single example. When war is on the doorstep support for your own side typically hardens massively.

    The times where populations have turned against wars have always been when the troops are fighting far away from home in lands that the home population feels they shouldn’t be dying in.

    This will only make people cling to support for the military because they rely on it for personal safety.

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      That is not what has ever happened at any point in time historically, I actually can’t think of a single example.

      There are countless historical examples of cities and nations surrendering without a fight when faced with attack. Just look at the Mongol conquests for an obvious starting point.

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        Mate you’re advocating for a genocide against civilians. That’s not acceptable, and all you’re doing by writing this stuff online is creating content that Russians read and think to themselves “wow, the west really are fascists that want to murder us all”. It doesn’t help, it ends up getting used to reinforce the propaganda.

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          They’re the ones doing the genociding and supporting the genociding. They’re the ones supporting the butchers of Bucha and the siege of Mariupol. They’re the ones taking selfies in the ruins of Ukrainian homes for aesthetics.

          What would you have done when the Nazis invaded Poland? Would you have wrung hands at the bombing of Dresden and Tokyo?

          I made my choice. I joined the strategic nuclear fleet as an SSBN sailor. Sometimes the only language a nation will understand is force.

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            I’m claustrophobic so picked jumping out of planes instead but same idea. It’s fuckin wild to me that we spent 40 years arming up to fight Ivan and now half the country wants to hand them the keys to the football just to own the libs. They fucked around and are finding out that our old dusty shit off the shelf is eating them alive in properly motivated hands. Oh well

            Slava Ukraini

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          Mate I don’t think most russian people are reading an obscure, western primarily english speaking social media site, and the ones that are are probably more likely to be against the war.

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            It takes just one journalist to see it for it to be shown on national TV. But you’re right, they are unlikely to see it on this relatively obscure social media site when there are thousands of literal nazis with ukrainian flags and checkmarks over at twitter X.com, they can just take one of their tweets X’s instead.