Russia says Ukraine targeted Moscow with drones on Sunday, the latest in a series of attacks that have brought the Ukraine war to Russia’s capital.
The damage is pretty mild compared to the ruins that Russia created with their missiles on major ukrainian cities. If moscovits are shaking bacause 10 windows of a single story got damaged, they are invited to ukraine and see what they are doing to the civil population there.
People can turn away from supporting a war pretty quickly when it suddently reaches your doorstep.
Or they can become more in favor of it.
It usually has the opposite effect and hardens resolve
Press X to doubt.
Everyone is a badass until bullets start whizzing by your ass.
By that logic Ukraine would have capitulated by now…
Several million people fled the country. There is no option to leave anymore.
See The Blitz
That is not what has ever happened at any point in time historically, I actually can’t think of a single example. When war is on the doorstep support for your own side typically hardens massively.
The times where populations have turned against wars have always been when the troops are fighting far away from home in lands that the home population feels they shouldn’t be dying in.
This will only make people cling to support for the military because they rely on it for personal safety.
That is not what has ever happened at any point in time historically, I actually can’t think of a single example.
There are countless historical examples of cities and nations surrendering without a fight when faced with attack. Just look at the Mongol conquests for an obvious starting point.
Civilians do not decide whether to surrender or not. Militaries and leadership do.
Then they can watch their entire country burn. FAFO. Slava Ukraini.
Mate you’re advocating for a genocide against civilians. That’s not acceptable, and all you’re doing by writing this stuff online is creating content that Russians read and think to themselves “wow, the west really are fascists that want to murder us all”. It doesn’t help, it ends up getting used to reinforce the propaganda.
They’re the ones doing the genociding and supporting the genociding. They’re the ones supporting the butchers of Bucha and the siege of Mariupol. They’re the ones taking selfies in the ruins of Ukrainian homes for aesthetics.
What would you have done when the Nazis invaded Poland? Would you have wrung hands at the bombing of Dresden and Tokyo?
I made my choice. I joined the strategic nuclear fleet as an SSBN sailor. Sometimes the only language a nation will understand is force.
I’m claustrophobic so picked jumping out of planes instead but same idea. It’s fuckin wild to me that we spent 40 years arming up to fight Ivan and now half the country wants to hand them the keys to the football just to own the libs. They fucked around and are finding out that our old dusty shit off the shelf is eating them alive in properly motivated hands. Oh well
Slava Ukraini
Mate I don’t think most russian people are reading an obscure, western primarily english speaking social media site, and the ones that are are probably more likely to be against the war.
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It takes just one journalist to see it for it to be shown on national TV. But you’re right, they are unlikely to see it on this relatively obscure social media site when there are thousands of literal nazis with ukrainian flags and checkmarks over at
twitterX.com, they can just take one of theirtweetsX’s instead.
Any facts or verification that this was actually done by Ukraine? Seems like it’d be pretty on point for Russian propaganda to throw a few drones at themselves to whip up fervor. Not to mention the fact that it could’ve been done by partisans in Russia itself. I’d label either of those more likely than Ukrainian attacks on civilian infrastructure.
The West insisted that their weapons are not to be used inside Russia. I don’t think Ukraine would want to risk the supply of weapons for small political gains.
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When I first heard the news I actually automatically assumed that’s what had happened.
The fact that Ukraine claims responsibility is a pretty strong indicator. Who else do you think would have done it?
The Kremlin, as a false flag attack to justify something like broader mobilization.
Wasn’t there a point where if Ukraine took the fight and crossed the Russian border, that Nato and Ukraines supporters would withdraw their support?
Yes. The very first one of these suicide drone attacks Ukraine still denies it was them lol
Good.
Video of the drone attack: https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1685482924987056128
I feel pretty sus about this. Why was the videographer even recording at like 2am? At the last moment, the video went from a fluid motion of panning left and abruptly turning to the point of interest and then explosion. Seems like whoever recorded this already knew it was going to happen and just “happen” to record it.
This seems like Russian propaganda and an effort to mobilize the West.
I hope it didn’t kill any civilians.
Fair, but also almost strangely off kilter comment? Idk. I hope when Russia bombs Ukranian cities no one gets hurt but that clearly doesn’t happen. Hate to ‘whatabout’ you but one solid strike against Moscow is hardly triggering my sympathy for them.
Civilian deaths are bad no matter what side. Leave the soapboxing, armchair warrior stuff back at Reddit please and realize there’s no room for nuance when discussing human, civilian life. Not every Russian is bad…
Get your centrist, inaction supporting take here boys, free for all, one per person please.
Great job people. Let’s congratulate people on targeting civilians during a war. Clap clap clap.
Very unlikely they were targeting civilians, stop spreading Kremlin lies.
Man shut the fuck up lmao
Great discourse. Thumbs up. Just the kind of mental capacity to applaud trying to kill civies.
Hard to know who to support - the country that launched a drone attack on a government building, got their drone deflected and hit a civilian building, or the country that invaded the other one, raped and slaughtered their citizens, men, women and children alike, bombed their infrastructure to oblivion, and also shoots their own forced conscripts when the conscripts realise the meat grinder they’ve been send to and surrender or retreat.
Easy choice for some people to make, hard choice for some other people, like you, to make.
Or you can not be a hypocrite and not support any country that endangers civilians. Bombing a government building isn’t like bombing a military installation. Regular people work in government buildings. Or does the janitor deserve to die for wanting to support his family?
I don’t know anything about war, are attacks like this acceptable? Doesn’t it risk killing civilians?
If russia doesn’t like it, it can leave Ukraine and stop these attacks.
Can someone explain how they can fly drones that far?
Or is it someone stationed locally who’s soing the control?
Probably both, but yiu can fly a drone a lot further when it is a one way mission and yiu don’t need to save energy to fly it back.
yeah, I’d guess like 2 times further lol
