Top Meta executive said the company’s name change was a success because it beat out coverage of the ‘Facebook Papers’ revelations::Meta’s Chris Cox explained to employees the company’s rebrand succeeded in driving press coverage amid whistleblower disclosures.

  • FuglyDuck
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    8911 months ago

    he knows we still call it facebook, right? like only propagandists call it ‘meta’.

    • @froh42@lemmy.world
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      4911 months ago

      Of course he knows, don’t think these people are stupid. Still it limited the amount of news about the Facebook Papers by giving the press something else to write about. This post proves it even more.

      And yet in the long run, they can make the name Meta stick, just by behaving like the renaming was a huge success and just ignoring everyone who calls the whole company Facebook.

      If you like it or not over time Facebook will be just one of their brands, also probably not even the most attractive one.

    • Humanius
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      11 months ago

      They don’t care whether you call it Facebook or Meta.
      All they care about is that enough people were talking about the name change, so that they were distracted from the real controversy (which is the “Facebook Papers” revalations)

  • @LillyPip@lemmy.ca
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    7611 months ago

    Ya know what? He’s not wrong. I forgot about that for a while. I hate him a more now because it worked.

  • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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    7311 months ago

    I can’t imagine willingly working for a company this openly evil. Imagine sitting through an all hands like this.

    • Rentlar
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      3311 months ago

      Some software engineers are fine with temporarily casting aside their morals in exchange for a north of 200k USD salary.

        • @Eheran@lemmy.world
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          1611 months ago

          That’s like someone saying “I didn’t make the rules” while enforcing them. It removes exactly zero responsibility.

        • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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          1411 months ago

          If you have a skill set that lets you choose between working an for an ethical company for 100k and working for an evil company for 200k, it’s on you if you choose the latter.

          • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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            811 months ago

            What if I pick the 100k one… then get sick, have medical bills, can’t work anymore, and end up in debt? Because, let me tell you, being ethical only got me more insomnia.

            • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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              411 months ago

              What if I pick the 200k one and have to live with the fact that I made the world a worse place for everyone else? Being selfish is fine of course, but I don’t even earn 50k, 100k would already be ridiculous. I can’t imagine the difference between 100k and 200k being that big of an improvement to one’s life to justify increasing the suffering of others so much.

              • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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                211 months ago

                Well, I figure out the difference between 100k and 200k in how many years would it take me to get those extra 100k… like, right now, some extra 100k would solve all my financial problems for the foreseeable future, even possibly for life (yeah, I might not have all that much life expectancy left).

                Had I been more selfish when I had the chance, I’d be much better off now. The way things are, I’m also suffering while others are… suffering the same, just someone else got more selfish in my place, we won nothing.

            • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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              11 months ago

              Then how would the 200k job magically make things better? The kind of medical bills you’re talking about aren’t payable unless you’re a 1%er. You’re screwed either way. And I say that as someone who also has chronic insomnia.

              • @jarfil@lemmy.world
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                111 months ago

                100k is slightly more than what I’d need right now to stop worrying. Had I got that several years ago, chances are I wouldn’t even get this sick in the first place, meaning that would likely be several times extra 100k… and it clearly didn’t stop others from taking the high pay road, so being more ethical only screwed me, didn’t even prevent others from getting screwed.

        • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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          11 months ago

          BS. Meta engineers can work anywhere they want. It is absolutely their fault that they choose to continue enabling Meta. Meta couldn’t survive without them.

          Many other professions have ethical standards. Software engineering should be no different.

    • NormalC
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      1511 months ago

      Software engineers (the ones who work in firms producing nonfree software) have little to no class consciousness since none of them actually have meaningful ownership of the code they produce. They are just laborers of a greater executive/shareholders’ visions. This way, they get to deflect blame since they were “another cog in the machine.”

      Software engineers will not EVER push back on these companies because they have no hutzpah materially (worker ownership) or socially (Corporate mindshare). Opponents of free software correctly point this out but never go further than “i just need to make money.”

      • @reversebananimals@lemmy.world
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        1811 months ago

        Why try to make enemies? I’m the kind of person you’re talking about and I’ve absolutely pushed back and even left jobs over ethical issues.

        No need to stereotype and create artificial divisions. We’re on the same side.

        • NormalC
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          11 months ago

          Yeah, this and the other reply was helpful. What I said wasnt constructive and I apologize. This kind of thing just gets me super edgy and I channeled it in the wrong way. Thanks.

    • @Jim@ani.social
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      411 months ago

      I mean you gotta eat. I dont work for meta but for an industry that is probably scum. I think what I do adds value to it being less evil. I also do the bare minimum and they pay me so I think thats a win-win.

      • oce 🐆
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        611 months ago

        Software engineers can find high paying jobs easily, they can choose. Unless they want to eat caviar at every meal.

          • oce 🐆
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            211 months ago

            Which kind of software engineers have trouble finding high paying jobs relatively to where they live?

              • oce 🐆
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                111 months ago

                This applies to any profession, so back to my initial point.

                • @AssPennies@lemmy.world
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                  211 months ago

                  I guess I’m missing where you made your initial point of “this applies to any profession”. Could you please restate your point?

          • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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            111 months ago

            You’re trying to tell me that Meta devs can’t find a job anywhere else? Give me a break. It’s hilarious how this thread touched such a nerve.

        • @Jim@ani.social
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          211 months ago

          Did he say anything about software engineers? It’s not as if thats the only job available at corporations.

          • oce 🐆
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            111 months ago

            It’s the majority of the payroll at this kind of company, and I wanted to mention them in particular. Do you disagree with my statement applied to software engineers?

      • @rambaroo@lemmy.world
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        How easily could you get a job elsewhere though? Meta devs have a choice and they chose greed. These aren’t people struggling to pay bills dude. I’m getting sick of people acting like they are.

        And note that I did say “willingly”. I understand there are people at Meta, especially non-devs, who may not have a choice. I doubt they are anywhere near a majority though.

  • @Kinglink@lemmy.world
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    4311 months ago

    It wasn’t a success because of that. People just don’t care about the Facebook Papers and the Twitter exposes.

    They either already suspected it, and this just confirms it, or they don’t give a fuck, they just want a place to post inane statuses and talk to people, because it’s social media.

    Sadly they are sheep and they never will wake up.

    • @ChewTiger@lemmy.world
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      311 months ago

      That is a good point worth considering… Though I just think he wants to shove some Fintech in there and thinks the name X is “cool”.

  • @DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz
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    3711 months ago

    Not being a Facebook user and only seeing some mentions of FB/Meta in thread like this I can confirm I haven’t heard of the Facebook Papers. It rings a bell about some privacy violation stuff, but not a big one.

  • @tenitchyfingers@lemmy.world
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    1911 months ago

    Ever heard the criticism about some movie villains being “comically evil and unrealistic”? Well, tell those critics you’re sorry. Like even the MCU villains are realistic enough at this point. Matter of fact, Obadiah Stane is the perfect representation of one of these evil motherfuckers. That’s why he’s the scariest villain in the whole franchise.

    • synae[he/him]
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      1111 months ago

      Wasn’t there a recent James Bond movie about some guy controlling the water supply, which was less bad than an actual dictator’s plan?