• Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      There a multiple people running, the only third party candidate that is actually on the ballot in all 50 states (RFK is not on all 50 states ballots) Chase Oliver gets no airtime, the msm rather talk to you about brain worms then a practical candidate.

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        Yeah but Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest. He’s also got absolutely no idea how healthcare works, wants to completely abandon all our military bases, and he doesn’t even mention global warming in his policies.

        Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great. Privacy? Great.

        But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy and our ability to negotiate on the international stage.

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          Chase wants to completely get rid of all tariffs, so, I mean, some of his policies aren’t the greatest

          He makes a compelling argument against tariffs as public policy. But he’s still a business-first libertarian, which means his views on environmental regulation and labor rights and various federal public services also suck.

          Guns? Great. Drugs? Great. Crime and punishment? Great.

          Eh. I wish his immigration policy was as laisse-faire as his guns and drugs policy.

          But most of his power and economics policies would completely dog-fuck the US economy

          Our economy was dog-fucked ages ago, when we deindustrialized the midwest and plowed endless subsidies into FIRE and Tech sectors. Now we’ve got a bunch of computers churning out trillion dollar digital nothings, while investment cash flows like a waterfall into finance, insurance, and real estate, but our actual industrial capacity remains in a vestigial state.

          We can’t even make enough new silicon chips to feed our antiquated ICE engine automotive industry.

          I don’t think Oliver really has a path out of that mess, but its hardly his fault we got here.

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            I mean, yeah, I agree on pretty much all counts. But, you know, typically you renovate a shitty house instead of punching holes in the walls.

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            I prefer the term rat-fucked. Because one small group came in and took all the best parts of the Economy, leaving everyone else with powdered eggs and ham loaf. Not to mention the extra constipation causing cheese product.

            At least when dog-fucking occurs, cute puppies come out. After a good rat-fucking, all you get is weird diseases and shame.

        • Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          So a less then perfect candidate is worse than Trump or Biden? I just want to understand why so many write him off while hating the situation writing him off gives us.

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            Oh, no, if I would vote for more than one person, I’d probably vote for him, Biden, and whoever happens to be the green party candidate (hello Approval Voting). But as it stands right now, I can only pick one, and Biden offers the fewest compromises in the least damaging areas, in my opinion. Well, maybe whoever is leading the Greens, but my state is somewhat competitive so I’m forced to be strategic and pick between the two front-runners.

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              Green is running Stein again, I thought? Except she’s gone pretty much towards the same extreme isolationism as Oliver and RFK.

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      Good idea, let’s trick half of the Trump voters into voting for him instead so Biden has an easy win