• supafuzz [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    the fake hillbilly motherfucker is gonna be one burger down the wrong pipe away from the presidency

    we live in the bad timeline but at least it’s funny

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      Kamala harris is a “never bidener” who once called him out for racism and said that she believed tara reade…

      None of this is real. It’s all to sell books that end up in Goodwill’s and then landfills

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      My parents are the Republicans that Democrats try and court (they will never vote democrat ofc), they don’t really like trump but don’t really hate him either , they fucking love JD Vance

      tldr: it’s Joever

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      The “Bring Back Domestic Manufacturing, isolationism” stuff was very much not part of early 2000’s conservative republican politics. They were hyper-liberals on economics in a way that’s not credible today and this was peak war on terror. His brand of politics is much closer to Trumpism than anything from the Bush era, and I’d argue its likely to be much more appealing to a broad base of people. This is pointing the way forward for the Republicans much more than the Pence pick was. Picking up the smart parts of Trump’s populism without the personal baggage. The problem is it’s completely superficial because these politicians are still beholden to the same elite donor base that has made everything the way it is. If they end up in power for any length of time they’ll become deeply unpopular just like the third-way.

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        The VP pick has always been really indicative of the republicans, except for Paul Ryan. That one was just weird, but also they ate shit and lost so maybe thats why.

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      It seems to me Trump is going for a more “moderate” (very very relatively speaking) route this time around. It seems like he learned not to antagonize damn near every center of power in the country.

      He’s gonna win with a landslide.

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      I remember when my parents gave me his book as a ‘regular conservative who gets it’ when he was a never-trumper. I still regret humoring them and not explaining to them in detail how it would have more utility as low ply toilet paper.

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    I’m surprised by this pick because I think Trump will get annoyed - perhaps very quickly - if Vance gets even a little too much attention. I’m not saying Vance is super charismatic or anything. But Pence was a smart pick for Trump because he was as interesting as a pile of wet paper towels.

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    My sister went to see jd Vance speak at her college and there was going to be a meet and greet thing after the speech with cookies and juice. She ended up having to leave early and when she went to get a cookie she accidentally knocked the whole catering-sized box all over the floor. She tried to help the staff clean them up, but when she tried to throw them away they were like, “what are you doing? Those are still good?” and PUT THE FLOOR COOKIES BACK ON THE TABLE TO BE SERVED!

    So I know for a fact that JD Vance has eaten floor cookies.

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    I can see the electoral rationale for this if you consider Vance as a way to try and plug some holes in Trump’s public image for the campaign.

    His USMC service means Trump can use him to distract from the ‘suckers and losers’ or lack of support from veterans attack line. Vance’s whole hillbilly elegy working class hope shtick (yeah it’s bullshit) counters Trump’s NYC spoiled billionaire reality. The fact that Vance used to talk mad shit about Trump doesn’t just mean that Trump can use him bending the knee as a sign of strength, but Vance can distance himself from those comments, especially after the shooting, and play into the whole unity and calmer rhetoric thing.

    Plus I imagine it comes with an absolutely blank cheque from Peter Thiel and a lot more of silicon valley.

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      Doesn’t Silicon Valley money tend to lean pretty heavily D? I wonder if the assassination was an organized attempt and now that it has failed deals are being made illuminati

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        From what I’ve seen reported and what I’ve heard from people I’ve worked with who either have been or still are in that world, including some serious big companies everyone knows, there’s a bit of a split. Of course the biggest names give to everyone, but apparently a lot of ‘socially peogressive’ types are pretty hardcore libertarians who give heavily to Republicans for a lack of oversight, regulation, and of course tax and profit offshoring. Some of those definitely got colder feet about it while the Republicans were pulling tech CEOs into hearings to demand they ban criticism online, Chinese plots etc. But as Trump has indicated he’ll be more hands off, the Dems have forced all sorts of faux-moderation these sites don’t want to do or open up to, and the more right wing political lobby arm of silicon valley has got its shit together (think Ajit Pai fronting for a bunch of investors trying to force the firesale of TikTok or be banned for example) a lot more of that money is flowing Republican again compared to years past.

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    the message of his famous memoir was literally “the working class appalachians i grew up with are loser rednecks who will never amount to anything because they’re worthless lazy fucks who blame all their problems on the system.” not exaggerating, this is how he talks about his people:

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    I know

    ron-sugar-man is the more direct Republican counterpart of

    pete-eat

    but Vance gives off a very similar “grown in a vat and programmed to acquise to the highest bidder/biggest evil by adopting any affect or positions his owners handlers backers want him to” kind of vibes