It’s really frustrating, I was talking to someone about how successful China has been in de-radicalization of reactionaries. But they responded to this by saying they’re only successful because, and I quote “put them all in concentration camps and killed them”

Has anyone here been successful in deprogramming people about this topic? If so any good sources I can use to dissuade them? I tried telling them that the UN report, if you read it, just says that there’s concerns about abuse by internment offcials, and there’s no evidence of genocide. But when I say this they just dismiss it as if the UN is controlled by the PRC. It’s like a religion to liberals to believe anything bad about China and can get really frustrating.

  • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    3 months ago

    Do a google image search with them for “Uyghur genocide.” There is absolutely nothing there, aside from a picture published by the Chinese government of some grumpy dudes sitting in a prison yard. Then compare this with an image search for Gaza. This worked with one lib I knew in the past. He doesn’t talk about the Uyghur genocide anymore. But he is still a fucking lib.

    There is also an uncut YouTube video out there of someone walking around Urumqi I think and just watching people speak Uyghur and chill out. Hardly seems genocidal.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      17·
      3 months ago

      Either China has the most sophisticated censorship apparatus ever conceived of where they can prevent any and all photos or videos from leaving the country…or there just isn’t an ethnic cleansing happening at all. It’s pretty hard for libs to believe in a genocide in China when you point to stuff coming out of Palestine. Even videos from Ukraine can be found of Russians doing awful shit (and vice versa). Or just Abu Ghraib.

      There’s always people whose conscious gets the better of them and will leak things like this happening. It happened during the Holocaust, Bosnian War, Rwandan genocide, etc. Of course, you get absolutely brainwormed libs who will say “because the Chinese are genetically prone to genocide and everything there is worse than 1986 holodoor.”