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HarryLime [any]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 11 months ago

The soy fascism of Reddit alt history

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The soy fascism of Reddit alt history

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HarryLime [any]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 11 months ago
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  • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    who the fuck is still thinking about john mccain fucking hell

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      liberals. they love that man more than their own children.

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          Heard some lib radio host glaze McCain just yesterday while drivingfor work, called him a war hero

          I couldn’t contain my anger so I yelled “HE WAS A WAR CRIMINAL! WHAT THE FUCK KIND OF HERO DROPS NAPALM ON INNOCENT CHILDREN?!?” guts-rage

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            Sort of a “call coming from inside the house” thing when the US is a terror state.

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        my lib mom got upset when Trump mocked the USS John McCain cause it was disrespectful to both the man and the troops

        i just don’t get libs

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        yeah she was on the View as a token dumbass

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            i’m not saying anyone on there is an intellectual heavyweight but the few clips i have seen from the view were basically all Mccain getting clowned on by basic liberals lol

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    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I remember his campaign tried to brand him as a ‘maverick’ when he was one of the biggest conservative dullards around

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        it’s funny because it worked with the base, the problem was it was the base of the democrats instead lol

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    telling that all of these are reactionary daydreams and fantasies, and there’s no progressive alternatives offered or discussed. Here are some of mine:

    What if Lincoln had picked a radical abolitionist as his VP and after his assassination there was a massive anti-southern aristocracy crackdown to enforce reconstruction?

    What if Kruschev didn’t win the power struggle and instead Molotov did? What if the sino-soviet split never happened because Kruschev didn’t get into power and immediately start shitting on and dismantling socialist achievement?

    What if Stalin didn’t stop at Berlin? What if the USSR discovered nukes before the west?

    What if Lenin was not shot and didn’t have health complications resulting from that?

    What if the Spartacus Revolt was successful and the German Revolution joined with the USSR?

    What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo? What if Napoleon allied with the Haitians and revolutionaries of the new world instead of turning them into enemies? What if he supported a Haitian-African American take-over of the Louisiana territories?

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      What if temperatures stayed stable in the Paleocene, resulting in the dawn of civilization around paleolake megachad?

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        Everybody has a really pronounced jawline, nothing else changes.

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      What if Napoleon defeated the British at Waterloo?

      He would be defeated in the next battle. He had already won at Ligny and Quatre Bras, and it didn’t bring him a strategic victory, and neither would a victory at Waterloo.

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        Whoops was thinking of Trafalgar

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    If the initial push into France fails I’m pretty sure the nazis are deeply fucked lmao. I suggest opening 13 more fronts, that always seems to work.

    As for how to win the Iraq war, I would do a billion 9/11s. This is from Saddam’s perspective, right?

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    The Nazis literally could not have ever won WW2 and anyone who argues against that is way too vested in learning about Nazi campaigns specifically

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        FACT: 99% of wonder weapon scientists quit right before finding the one that will sweep aside the slavic hordes

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      I think it’s the closest you could get to historical determinism. The only way for the Nazis to win was for them to not be Nazis. They lost the war the moment they started it. Germany was doomed even if they never went to war because fascist economics will demand that they do. The whole thing was a fuck because it was fundamental to their ideology.

      There’s some scenarios where they could have maybe gotten a draw (like forming an alliance with the US and UK to invade the USSR), but it would have still left them worse off than…not being nazis.

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      They won against France only because Allied generals thought it was a good idea to stick their neck into an obvious trap, and then German generals decided that they were absolute geniuses and could win whatever they want.

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        Yeah it turns out it really easy to win battles when you just surprise attack unmobilized neutral countries. When countries become mobilized and ally against you, horse carriages and bolt actions no longer cut it.

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            Dont know about that. Elon would never think to use a train to transport his vehicles with their own wheels. He’s going to make a bigger cybertruck (cymi-truck) for you to use on the uberloop.

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                You know, I’d probably pay money to watch cybertrucks drive into battle for America. It’d be hilarious when the transmission gives out and the whole thing just explodes when it gets hit by BBs from an airsoft rifle.

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                cybertruck will never be a technical

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          No, France was already completely mobilized by the end of 1939, combined forces of France and Britain were stronger than German army, but their military leadership managed to send most of the army straight into encirclement in May 1940. Germans expected a major but limited victory, not a complete destruction of main Allied force, which happened only due to monumental blunders.

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    Alt History: Limitless possibilities, always how the Nazis can win

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    Genre fiction writer here, 99% of genre fiction is fascist.

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        Even the Mahabharata is like a thorough endorsement of Patriarchal power structures but it’s what makes mythology and its fuzzy ironic (ambivalent?) relationship with its historical context so interesting

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        How is Ramayana a fascist story?

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            the idea of purity, especially purity in a patriarchal sense where a woman held captive by “impure” enemy forces must painstakingly, exhaustively, and perhaps even dangerously prove her “purity” to the patriarchal power.

            Maybe not so different from Iphigenia / Isaac.

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        “The main character needs to have her naked body described in detail during a mandatory shower scene.”

        Okay cmon no way did anybody say this to you, right?

        …please let it be fake…

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            agony-consuming HOLY FUCK COOMER BOOMER

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    You are Hitler

    I’d rather not

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      gun-hubris

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    pepe-silvia Here’s how Hitler can still win!

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    They’re aware John McCain died in 2018 right?

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    Ah yes, the Battle of France. Where you had that one general doing that maneuver.

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    The soviet union would have to not exist for the nazis to win, I think. Even without allied forces drawing german war materials away from the eastern front, there’s no way they coulda beat the red army, I’m pretty sure.

    Also though the nazis were gonna invade places that would bring them into conflict with the allies anyway, lol lmao

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