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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/3376057
I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn’t the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.
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Trying to be relatable while they force you to use their browser or choice.
How do you do, fellow users?
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I realize the snake metaphor has now fallen apart
Nah, they’re just snakes with hands, nothing weird about that.
So skinks?
TIL about a new animal.
um actually i really love when corporations like mcdonalds use all lower case and talk sassy to show that theyre just like me 💅💄
😂
Fuck Adobe, not supporting Linux, and now not even supporting Firefox, the once most used browser? Whoever pirates their crappy software deserves a statue.
Use pirated adobe #noshame
since flash died I’m happy that I don’t even know what adobe does anymore.
Something with trying to claim they own PDFs and Photoshop I guess
The pdf standard is open, though criminally bloated. Their pdf software (‘pro’ as well as the freemium ‘reader’ which looks like adware nowadays) is used only because it’s the most lenient with respect to files barely complying with the ‘standard’ – which includes things like application forms from government agencies.
… that is, if they can be said to ‘own’ the pdf format, it’s only because they smeared it all over with their shit. A bit like how hippos mark their territory, I guess.
Is there a FOSS/free PDF program that will let me fill in and digitally sign/encrypt a pdf?
Yup, I know Okular (KDE’s PDF tool) at least works. I don’t know if it works on Windows or macOS, but I’m sure there are other tools that do.
Thanks! I’ll look it up and try it out. Getting real tired of having to use shady web apps to get around something I have to do regularly as part of my job but for some unfathomable reason isn’t a default app on every computer where I work.
Normalize using pirated proprietary software for professional work😉
Yeap I remember the good ol’ days
I’d like my statue doing one of Luigi’s taunt poses, please
I wonder what their excuse will be once Linux surpasses MacOS in market share.
“Whoa there!”
Go fuck yourself with that fellow kids corporate speak. That pisses me off so much, way more than it probably should.
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It’s not cute, it’s patronizing.
Oh noez! This page had a teensy weency little oopsy! The code monkeys are working to fix the problem.
Absolutely disgusting.
OOPSIE WOOPSIE!! Uwu We made a fucky wucky!! A wittle fucko boingo! The code monkeys at our headquarters are working VEWY HAWD to fix this!
Honestly I’d respect that more.
This just gives me a vision of programmers at a patch closet not knowing what they’re doing.
Any software company that uses monthly subscriptions as their business model can fuck right off. Let us own what we buy.
I just immediately pirate any company who does that
You wouldn’t download a company!
There isn’t anything that Adobe charges money for that you can’t find an open source alternative for.
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Unfortunately they’re still a default app in the business world. Basically everyone at least uses Reader if only because it’s what people expect when they open a PDF.
SO glad Firefox has a built-in pdf reader now.
Thankfully, there’s a huge variety of pdf readers (not so much for editors, unfortunately)
My favorite for Windows is Sumatra
Sumatra is really cool. That was my only PDF reader for a long time when I was using Windows.
Are we surprised that Adobe is doing this? Adobe is exactly who I would’ve suspected adapting this bullshit immediately.
This is the main issue with that web DRM “security” shit that Google is trying to push. They have such a great market share now that big websites can now afford to put a check “only for Chrome” losing a very small percentage of users
Not that the DRM thing isn’t going to fuel this behaviour but this is already possible with the current browser specs. The DRM shit will just make it worse.
This very small percentage of users anyway would be privy to alternative to Adobe’s stack ?
Concern will perhaps be mainly for getting new users on FF/other browsers from Chromium.
Try using this: User-Agent Switcher and Manager
Doesn’t that one have ads?
Edit: Yup, it does.
Yup. Often these User agent switchers just do the trick. But some companies design their stuff to break on FF. (I’m looking at you Microsoft)
This thing is a lifesaver. I use it all the time.
This is exactly what I was about to comment
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I tried Gimp for a longer time, too, but I could not get used to the complicated layer management, missing layer effects & layer adjustment features. I will try out Affinity.
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Have you tried https://www.photopea.com/ ? It completely replaced my use of Photoshop and it felt very familiar where Gimp did not. Worth a look but ymmv
It took me a ridiculously long time to switch to GIMP and If I wasn’t all in for FOSS I wouldn’t have done it. I really can’t imagine any of the designers I know using it full time.
No version for Linux. Does it work under Wine?
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Unfortunately not because it’s not a normal exe file but it’s installing as a side loaded “windows store uwp app” (I don’t know the exact term)
Huge learning curve and a lot of missing features.
I have found most of the “high learning curve” is based more on work flow. Muscle memory can screw with you when trying to learn a new piece of software. I used to use Dreamweaver back in the day when I was on winblows, made the switch to Linux started using bluefish and had to change my work flow which was hard to learn because I was indoctrinated in the way dreamweaver worked. Actually had to relearn some aspects of web design since I had gotten used to the convenience of dreamweavers macros that were pre-installed
It’s not an one-time purchase. I bought Affinity Photo for this purpose and then they released Affinity 2, and it wasn’t a free upgrade for Affinity 1 owners.
I’m not buying Affinity 2 and buying every new release just like Parallels do. I’d rather stick with the old version or take a shot on Gimp instead.
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Yes you can. Paying for a major upgraded version is the alternative to an evergreen subscription, but allows you to milk more usage out of your purchase if you don’t need the latest and greatest.
Expecting a one time purchase to entitle you to updates forever is asinine.
Get a user agent switcher extension
I haven’t checked, but I’d guess it’s because of some non-standard feature that only Chromium supports, not because of user-agent.
In my experience, companies typically use this message because they only officially support/test on the listed browsers. They block out any other browser to cut down on support emails. If you spoof your user agent so the site thinks you’re using a supported browser, somewhere between 95%-100% of the functionality will usually work just fine.
That’s what our devops team does. All of my company’s internal web apps are tested against chrome only and that’s all that’s supported. It will usually work with Firefox so it’s not a big deal unless you have an issue and they find out you’re not using Chrome.
Companies should test to open web standards and tell users to file a ticket with their browser devs if something breaks because of nonstandard behavior.
A lot of sites work with just a useragent switch. Still worth trying
That’s the thing - i haven’t checked either. Guess what’s the next step? User agent switcher
Not supporting Firefox is WAY down the list of crimes Adobe has committed against their customers. I’m not all surprised by this post
There isn’t anything that Adobe charges money for that you can’t find an open source alternative.
No real replacement for After Effects unless if you want to juggle between 5 programs and then lose clients because they can’t open your project files
Blender
You can’t animate text on a video clip without spending a lot of time, something which is 2 clicks on after effects
Fair point, Blender isn’t for the weak of heart but it’s free and getting better and better. It does particles and other things too. After Effects has a steep learning curve too though, you just know it.
I know, I love blender and work with it when I can, but I do motion design professionally and it’s painful how there’s no alternative to after effects
We have to stop confusing compositing and motion design, Blender is great for compositing, absolutely not 2D motion design. The only software that could efficiently replace After Effects on some aspects would be Cavalry, but it’s still on early development.
The GIMP is superior to Photoshop in every way. Fight me.
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I am listening.
Pro retoucher here. What would you recommend? I’ve tried to switch to Affinity a few times but not tried anything else.
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Gonna give pixelmator a try, thanks!
Krita > GIMP
Honestly ever si ce I discovered Krita I never went back to GIMP. Maybe gimp is more customizable at the base level but fuck me if Krita doesn’t make transitioning out of Photoshop a breeze. Changing from PS to Krita is like switching from a metal baseball bat to a wooden one. Switching from PS to Gimp is like switching out your metal baseball bat for an unfelled pine tree.
Sorry, but fuck no. Not even close. I hate adobe, but photoshop is literally better than GIMP in every way. But like some said, there are better options than photoshop.
is there a list of that
thanks a lot!
Im REALLY trying to make myself learn Affinity Photo, but I just keep falling back to PhotoPea which is like an in browser Photoshop clone
Krita? Not good enough?
Not for photo editing or pixel art. Krita is a painting tool.
Wym not photo editing? You can do everything aswell in Krita. Changing hues, retouching, selection, layers, saturation, tone balance. All there.
And you can most definitely use it for pixel art. Even if you don’t want to use Krita there exist paint.net, aseprite, piskel or pixelorama. No need for hundreds of dollars for PS.and if you don’t want to pay, you can always use libresprite instead of aesprite
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Krita is awesome for tablet painting but it’s not that easy to use for photoshop type stuff, imo.
I love Affinity photo once I got used to it, it does have some quirks though.
Got stuck in hospital for a few weeks recently and used the opportunity to finally learn Affinity.
I’m now really liking it. Takes a few tries to get into it though.
I particularly like it on the iPad with the Apple pencil. A bit less so on my windows laptop.
I will recommend GIMP or Krita usage even more
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Krita used to be a full suite. They just decided to give up fighting GIMP and focus on what Krita is best at (effectively illustration).
@PopOfAfrica @navitux there was a cool mod of GIMP, gimpshop that made it quite usable. Unfortunately a domain squatter registered the domain and filled the website with Spyware. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop
“I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it.”
Good, users like you are the reason ransomware happens. Fucking update your shit. Windows 7 isn’t secure anymore.
I don’t even understand the hate. It works well, stable, fast and pretty decent on RAM. Even early on I haven’t had any major issues.
Yeah, I’m generally an early adopter of software, even installed XP media center edition and Win 8 as soon as they were available through the volume licensing center. I’ve never understood the hate around 10 or 11 on the whole. Yes they have a few frustrating aspects, but overall, they’re significant improvements. I occasionally use a win 10 device at work, and it feels clunkier than 11 now. 7 was great, but it isn’t worth compromising an entire network for.
@c0mbatbag3l @jeena Or just stop using MS products. They build in backdoors just for criminals anyway.
They build in backdoors just for criminals anyway.
Source please?
Old anecdotal knowledge from the 1990s.
Became public in these court cases:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stac_Electronics
MS successfully countersued STAC because they were using proprietary DOS calls, ie reserved for MS products only giving them an advantage.
There is no reason to believe MS ever discontinued their use.
So you’re saying that they’re the criminals in question? Or are you saying that somehow they’re selling access to those old MS-DOS APIs?
I’m really not sure how any of this supports the original claim that Microsoft makes APIs specifically for criminal companies. All it says is that they make APIs for themselves. They’re a POS company, sure, so there’s no reason to stretch the truth.
I never said or meant to imply that.
MS builds backdoors for their own use.
Criminals can use those backdoors.I quoted your exact words.
@sugar_in_your_tea cute.
A backdoor is not an api.
A proprietary call is justified for competitive reasons but creates vulnerabilities.
Why do you think they exist?
Or do just troll?
“Trust me bro”
How do you know he wasn’t using Linux?
“Held off” doesn’t really sound like he switched from one to another, just like he’s holding out on updating the OS.
I like how you just assumed win7.
I held off to - when 7’s support ended I moved to 8.1 and used openshell to make it look like 7. When 8.1 support ended I moved to 10 finally. I have to stay on a supported os for security and compliamce, but I make my employer pay for the upgrades and I don’t rush to the latest version - as long as its still supported I’m not moving.
I have a light at the end of the tunnel tho. My work tools are getting official linux versions. My work laptop has been windows but my home desktop has been linux. I may be able to drop windows entirely soon.
Edit: “he didn’t upgrade AND he disagreed with our hive minds opinion! Quick downvote!” How about you just Go back to reddit losers.
Of course I assumed windows 7, no one liked Windows 8/8.1
I’d wouldn’t blame anyone for skipping right over it to 10, it’s what I did. We are all required to run 11 now but 10 is still fine from a security posture at the moment in my opinion.
I’m not security, just a network engineer with a background in security auditing, so I could have out of date info on 10 still being safe, but it still gets updates at least.
Fuck your judgemental horseshit. Enjoy your loss of ownership and telemetry laiden trash.
I use arch btw.
/s but seriously “held off” doesn’t mean “kept using aftsr end of service” like you assumed. Lots of people waited till 7’s end of life to switch.
@TeepoPeeto @c0mbatbag3l Stuck with Win2k from 1999-2010, was forced onto XP when stuff like games wouldn’t install because 2k didn’t have Windows Firewall. Never mind the PC already had a decent firewall (think it was atGuard).
Still use Win7, in a VM, as it’s where my 🏴☠️ Adobe products run.
