That moment when, if I ever get banned from the ML instance, one might as well tell me to treat it as an extension of the act of fleeing while entrusting Archive Today and the victim to relay this message (totally becoming of the spokespeople for the people’s liberation, /s also I would not voluntarily remove a thread of mine, so if this is gone by the time you get the archive…).
I consider myself a typical Orwellian person within the ML instance (fun fact, stands for Marxist-Leninist) who believes in the validity of debate, diplomacy, and standing up for oneself, having signed up for ML because the others were overcrowded when I was led to see Reddit as bad news due to the API (yet here I am). If I don’t want to engage with someone, I leave, and if someone disobeys the rules of something I’m the admin of (not any instance), I ban them with tools already at my disposal (as opposed to actual attacks using tools not anyone’s business, and that was after banning her). Sadly this isn’t everyone. Worth mentioning on behalf of someone afraid of breaking rules against block evasion/retaliation, being the Orwellian I am who won’t stand for things like the creed-based/LGBT discrimination I see. I see this (unauthorized username revelation and a false excuse of finding a rabbit hole) and I think “what’s next, will admins threaten to reveal our passwords as the norm in due time”. The US is on the verge of banning Tiktok for such shit, and here we are thinking of ourselves as invincible, like some cult.
When someone then mentions it on Reddit with her permission (and yes I have permission too), he shows up, claims she has the same name on 20 sites (when the dox that anyone can read clearly shows otherwise, and I did doublecheck his new claims, they’re false again), and tries to demoralize the thread. I’m ashamed personal attacks and stealing info/photos is the norm for my brethren. And I’d bet a pretty big wager to prove me wrong, just to see if people would think they can.
This is out of hand, can we either overhaul admins or defederate ML considering all the threats of banishments make it dead weight? Because I feel like a sanction is in order.
Heads up, this is almost entirely un-followable for anyone who isn’t already aware of whatever the hell it is you’re talking about.
I think you’re saying that some .ml admin publicly outed someone elses not connected usernames across multiple platforms? Am I at least in the ballpark?
Was going to answer this earlier but I thought maybe someone else might before I did.
Yes, you’re on the right track, give or take a little nuance. On Reddit, this would get someone banned in a heartbeat, which is arguably not entirely out of left field.
To explain it in summarized terms, basically there’s an admin of the ML instance and a community mod (the mod is from the community !casualconversation@lemm.ee).
The mod and the admin happened to meet up on a post about LGBTQ+ rights, the mod herself being on the asexual spectrum. The mod brought up (because she thought it was relevant, as a third party member I guess) that the American Democrat Party often appeals to groups (such as Islam, even not minding their extreme side) who have a history of not seeing eye to eye with the LGBTQ+.
The admin, who is known for being very articulate but reached a new low I’ve ever seen with this incident, tried getting his opinion in to no avail before removing half of her (the mod’s) replies there, banning her from a bunch of random communities to get a point across, effectively made her leave the instance, exposed private information of hers out of spite if that wasn’t enough, and then backlashed on Reddit when someone called him out on it.
Reading between the lines makes me think of the encounters I’ve had with Islamic extremists.
I can recover.
Lemmy.ml has a lot of issues, that’s already happening
This post is pretty incoherent, I’ve read it twice and have no idea what’s going on.
Was going to answer this earlier but I thought maybe someone else might before I did.
To explain it in summarized terms, basically there’s an admin (of the instance I’m in) and a community mod (the mod is from the community !casualconversation@lemm.ee).
The mod and the admin happened to meet up on a post about LGBT rights. The mod brought up (because she thought it was relevant) that the American Democrat Party often appeals to entities (such as Islam) who have a history of not seeing eye to eye with the LGBT.
The admin, who is known for being fiery but met an all-time low with this incident, tried getting his two cents in, to no avail, before removing half of her (the mod’s) replies there, banning her from a bunch of random communities to get a point across, scared her out of the instance, exposed private information of hers out of spite, and then backlashed on Reddit when someone called him out on it.
The response of mine above includes my suggestion that not doing anything might as well amount to other instances being victim to manipulation.
Considering the presidential debate just happened in the US, it brings to mind election extremism as a means of propaganda.
Leaked their roblox account 💀
Oof
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Lemmy.ml should be on your block list, same as hexbear and lemmygrad. They are dangerous waters, just fascists doing their thing. Jump ship, move instance, block them and don’t look back.
You would be losing a few open source communities in the process.
Some have alternatives, such as !linux@programming.dev for !linux@lemmy.ml , but !jellyfin@lemmy.ml is unique
They will move once their users move. The whole idea behind fediverse is that people and communities can migrate.
The last big Lemmy.ml admin drama was 3 months ago https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
- !privacy@lemmy.ml is still the most active community on that topic by far (8.4k monthy active user compared to around 900 for !privacy@lemmy.world and !privacyguides@lemmy.one )
- !unixporn@lemmy.ml has 865 mau, !unixporn@lemmy.world 244
It might happen at some point, but network effect is still a thing, and most people do not really care enough to move to less active communities
I mean it’s silly ML behaviour, but also it’s surprising to me because davel is usually cool-headed.
Barely a dox if it’s just finding other profiles based on information publicly posted on the profile.
What?! Davel was the first person I ever dealt with on Lemmy that caused me to find out how to block people. He is a first rate A hole and this does not surprise me one bit.
And yeah… keep downplaying him being an asshole… barely a dox. It just speaks to the obsessive and terrible person he is that he find the need to go and collect all this info to show the other person… I can get to you. It is bully behavior on steroids.
Cool-headed? What was going on I wonder with the modlogs inferring he spammed the ban hammer against her in four different communities (three would be unrelated) before the initiation of official instance action (all with the default reason cited, like he wanted to drive the statement of a grudge home)? The only thing she was elaborating on was how counter-intuitive it is American Democrats split their sympathies between the LGBT and the complete creed of Islam (hence the part in the OP about the LGBT, of note is the fact her asexuality is alluded to in conversation almost each time corresponding to something like this happening). Honestly sounds like a particularly agenda-based sentiment.
dox have to contain personal / private info. this is just public internet usernames
Many weren’t public until he said anything and are connected to other personal info.
i’ll take your word for it because i’m not reading all those links. but if it doesn’t reveal real world name / address etc it’s not doxing
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What was it you said?
Reply parent link.
That acted like one
The way he showed someones links is very malicious it acts like one
Update: It seems they/affiliates have a YouTube account (alerted by someone I know, apparently they think I’m Leni which a true admin of all people who has IP address records would know is true or false and not have to speculate that a defender is an alt by virtue of defending anyone, and at least more than one admin is saying “false”) and until now I’ve been just someone in the audience. Looking into their content, I guess this is who one of the people they positively link to refers to as tri-hard and exists in a rent-free state that can’t defend itself properly inspiring other things (uncool even if the doxxing party is earning their ire by throwing absolute fire onto the mod in more ways than one for bringing his behavior to light).
There’s still a lot too extreme for me to understand.
Update 2: So they can dox people all they want but at the same time are paranoid about members doxxing people when other places are aware there is no harm in something? Double standard much?
