• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        How many injuries, I wonder.

        It is extremely cool that we continue to take “Everyone wounded by these pagers was Hezbollah” at face value once again.

        This, from the same organization that bombed hospitals, schools, and refugee camps while insisting every one of them was a Hamas command center.

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        3 months ago

        Most likely most of them were though. I mean I don’t think many people outside Hezbollah were using pagers, not to mention that most likely they tampered one or two batches of them only.

        I am just wondering what the official government of Lebanon is thinking about this incident because in my opinion that’s a huge blow into the sovereignty of a foreign country. Imagine something similar happens in Israel or the US, do you think those countries would sit on the diplomatic table and negotiate?

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          3 months ago

          The problem with explosions is that they injure everyone nearby, not just the person with the explosion in their pocket.

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            3 months ago

            You can look up the videos. People standing three feet away are fine while the person with the pager is down for the count. Innocents are always harmed in war, but this was about as precise and just a strike as humanly possible.

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              I’m sure that’ll make that girl’s friends and remaining family feel much better.

              The explosions had to happen at the same time to be effective, and so people who were being attacked were in a variety of places. Detonating explosives in an uncontrolled variety of public places is not precise.

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            3 months ago

            Agree, but the explosive inside is very low, so the damage is mostly going to be inflicted on the person who this pager belonged to. From the initial reports all the casualties were linked to Hezbollah and even the girl was a daughter of a member of Hezbollah.

            Me personally, I don’t defend the actions of Israel, but still think it is a lot more targeted than dropping 2000lbs. bombs over densely populated areas. Another question is of course if this will achieve anything other than strengthening the resolve of those people.

            Unfortunately, nowadays to win a war, you simply need to be the richer and more advanced nation, and Israel has the upper hand here.

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              3 months ago

              That “even the girl was a daughter of a member of Hezbollah” part got me very angry.

              Kids don’t deserve to get blown up, even if their parents are mass murderers.

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                I have never said that. What Israel is doing geopolitically is a grave mistake and would ultimately give birth to a lot more terrorists that they will kill ultimately and won’t lead to any long lasting peaceful solution in the region. And all this is happening with the silent endorsement of the West, which is even more disturbing.

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                  In this instance I’ll blame whoever planted a couple of thousand explosives on people all over the place and detonated them simultaneously without caring who was nearby.

                  Imagine one of them was on a plane carrying your mother, or one was dropping off their kid at the school your kid goes to, or at the supermarket with you behind them in line.

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                    No one planted explosives all over the place in this scenario. We have videos of what happened, people standing nearby weren’t harmed.

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      3 months ago

      Thousands of peoples were wounded. And by the nature of a pager you do wear them when out and about and not only at the HQ

      • There’s thousands of Hezbollah militants as well. We don’t know yet exactly how targeted the attack was.

        Regardless “only” 9 people died so far. Thousands were wounded, but that’s much better than land mines would’ve been. This attack was extraordinarily targeted, and despite there being civilians hurt, they’re likely to be less hurt than the militants and unlikely to be among the dead. Every civilian death is a tragedy, but Hezbollah and Israel are in an armed conflict. Some civilian deaths are unavoidable. I much prefer Israel do this than the indiscriminate bombing on Gaza.