https://old.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/12hsred/which_countries_would_citizens_of_the_us_uk/

some great stuff here, but this one is my favorite:

As a Canadian, I sympathize with Americans in this thread who may feel resentful. But pro-tip guys — if you want to understand why Germans feel this way, don’t downvote the Germans telling you why they feel this way.

[in reply] They’re being downvoted because their reasons are bullshit and ignorant exceptionalist propaganda. Theyre also coming across as ungrateful dependent children, especially given the current circumstances that the US is currently ONCE AGAIN taking responsibility for a war on their continent that they caused. Admittedly, they caused it indirectly this time, through irresponsibly linking their energy economy inextricably to a rogue, imperialist petrostate, rather than through the genocide that’s their usual schtick.

:laugh

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    I’m not even willing to defend my own country. If we’re not planning on flying a red flag at the end of the war, I’m fragging my CO and getting the fuck out.

    • Soot [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      The UK is fading from power gracefully? They’re having a neo-fascist epileptic seizure who doesn’t want any international friends because they won’t admit how great and definitely an empire the UK still is.

    • NeelixBiederman [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      I’m assuming this is a copypaste of a reddit post; it oozes reddit. The hyperlinks and bullet points laid out to establish the poster as The Adult in the Room to us plebians, but through blind patriotic arrogance, entirely misses that Europeans resent America for it’s warmongering, it’s ambivalence to the UN, and expectation of all NATO nations to play ball in America’s wars (on their continent) while their own material conditions get worse

        • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.netEnglish
          3·
          2 years ago

          NATO was intended as a defensive alliance

          NATO being defensive has never been anything but propaganda. It was explicitly founded to combat socialist influence in Europe. It has always been about securing the interests of imperialist capitalist. What it does today is the same shit it has always done.

          They’ve never forgiven us for “saving” them from Naziism.

          Giving the US credit for saving Europe from naziism is kinda weird. By far the biggest contributor to allied victory in WWII were the Soviets and the Red Army.

        • Farman [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
          1·
          2 years ago

          Who is going to invade europe if amerca stops “subsidizing” them? Countries like iran spend a smaller percentage of theur economy in their military than your average europen nation. And they are contantly under threat. I would argue it is actually the europeans proping up the american military industry.