At least 206 Jewish anti-Israel protesters were arrested Monday after hundreds rushed the New York Stock Exchange and staged a sit-in outside the Manhattan landmark, police said.
Scores of pro-Palestinian protesters wearing red shirts stormed toward the building on Broad Street in Lower Manhattan — then chained themselves to the doors just before the stock market’s opening bell at 9:30 a.m., footage shows.
A handful of demonstrators, who hail from the Jewish Voices for Peace group, could be seen removing their jackets as they set up shop outside the building — jackets they wore in a possible bid to conceal their anti-Israel attire and thwart any attempt to stop them ahead of time.
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Source? That’s definitely not true for the younger jews and I think there’s more of us now
There source, apparently, is a poll taken of American Jews. And not a poll they understood very well:
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/05/21/u-s-jews-have-widely-differing-views-on-israel/
Along with the fact that most Israeli Jews want the country in which they live to exist, which… duh.
But, you know, America is the only country with Jews outside of Israel.
In fact, are there any countries besides those two?
Don’t underestimate the number of Jews in Israel that want a 0 state solution. There are anarchist Israelis. There are antizionist Israelis.
Oh I’m sure there are plenty of Israelis who want that.
But from all I can tell, based on better polling than the person above provided, the majority of Israelis could be described accurately as Zionists.
Their poll was about emotional attachment. You can be “emotionally attached to Israel” because it’s where the Western Wall is. It doesn’t mean you’re a Zionist as OP suggests.
Who elected you to speak on behalf of Jews?
This survey shows a majority of American Jews are Zionists. The percentage of Zionists is much higher among Jews living in Israel. That gives you a solid majority for Zionism among Jews.
Mods won’t like this post and delete it, just like the one you answered to. They might even ban me.
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Let’s embrace Palestinian ultranationalist Islamist blood and soil ideology and demand ethnic cleansing of the Jews back to Europe instead.
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It’s also not an either/or situation. It’s not either the Palestinians have the land or the Israelis have the land.
The land can be shared. So can the government. And that government can be 100% secular.
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I think we can talk about it regardless of where they are. And we should talk about it. And the more people that talk about it, the closer we get to realizing it. It will, of course, take a critical mass of people in Israel to agree, but that’s exactly why you keep talking about it.
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Funny how you cite a source that doesn’t even contain the word “Zionist”, “Zionism”, “Zion” anything.
If you actually have a look at the data you can see there’s very significant chunks that don’t have an issue with BDS, that don’t think that Netanyahu is in any way serious about peace. Those are not the frothing-at-the-mouth Kahanites that people on the US left often mean when they say “Zionist”. Yitzhak Rabin was a Zionist. Murdered by a Zionist.
It’s more complicated than that and may I remind y’all that Hamas specifically targeted Hippie Kibutzim during their attack, the same kind of people who go into the West Bank during olive harvest so that settlers have a harder time shooting Palestinians, which is one of the reasons why the Israeli government doesn’t give a rat’s arse about the hostages.
The biggest enemies of the Zionist project, currently, is the type of people running the Israeli government. Because if you’re out for a place for Jews to call home, to live in peace and prosperity, antagonising the fuck out of everyone is not the way to go about it. Traitors to the movement, the lot of them.
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The highest result for the NSDAP in elections was 43%.
Comparing Jews to Nazis is Antisemitic.
They were comparing Jews to Germans, not Nazis; they were comparing Zionists to Nazis.
Also antisemtic
No. Comparing Zionists to Nazis is not antisemitic. I am a Jew and not a Zionist. Many Zionists are Christians. Zionist does not equal Jew or vice versa.
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America and Israel. The only two countries in the world with Jews.
FACT.
Together they contain more than 80% of Jews.
I see. So based on your “evidence,” 60% of the percentage of the 80% of Jews that live in America in that combined 80% total of Israel and the U.S. are “Zionists” (even though that’s not what your poll said).
This is what the poll said:
“Somewhat emotionally attached to Israel” is not Zionism by any stretch of the imagination.
Emotionally attached means they want it to continue existing. That’s Zionism.
No. No it does not. I live in Indiana. I was born here. I have an emotional attachment to it.
If Canada decided to invade and turn this into Upper Ontario, because Canadian names are weird, I not only wouldn’t give a shit, I’d welcome the universal healthcare.
Are you advocating for Israel to annex the West Bank so Palestinians get better healthcare?
That survey says the opposite of what you think it does. Zionism now is essentially the Jewish version of white supremacy. It’s radical. It’s dangerous.
But when the survey you link to states quite clearly:
“And most Jewish adults took the position that God “did not literally give” the land of Israel to the Jewish people (42%) or said they do not believe in God or a higher power at all (24%).”
That’s not Zionism as currently defined.
Zionism is independent of being religious or secular.