• ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world
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        Not yet we’re not!

        Still plenty of nature to kill before humanity cannot survive in any capacity without corpo supply chains.

        If you’re breathing free air, drinking real water, and actual food can grow out of the ground we’re comparably in cyber paradise given how much worse AI spycraft and corporate ownership will worsen everything exponentially for the non-connected over the next decades

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          Still plenty of nature to kill before humanity cannot survive

          I think there may be debate on this point. Climate change may be self perpetuating soon (if it isn’t already) due to thawing meant reserves, etc.

          I’m not sure if anyone in the scientific mainstream thinks that’ll push the climate to a point where we can’t survive, but that probably depends on our behaviour over the next few decades.

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          I think by the end of this century we might hit a point of no return because the oil and gas have enough money to keep themselves from going under due to climate change.

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          Elon Musk is working on the cars though. They look like they’ll handle like the 2077 cars as well.

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        Could NOT get the nuclear power plant in Georgia off the ground for how long?

        Did it ever get finished?

        But when corporate wants it just fucking happens 🤡

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          Let me preface this that I’m not a huge fan of nuclear, but I do like factual information.

          Could NOT get the nuclear power plant in Georgia off the ground for how long?

          If you’re talking about Vogtle, it took about 13 years and 14 years. (two reactors)

          Did it ever get finished?

          Yes. If you want to be specific the original two reactors were finished in 2008. The new work was for the other two reactors. That’s what took 14 years. Of the two new reactors, one started providing commercial power for the first time in June of 2023. The second new reactor only started providing commercial power in Feb of 2024.

          But when corporate wants it just fucking happens 🤡

          Different type of power plants between what is being discussed for Google and what was put in at Vogtle in Georgia.

          Vogtle was completing construction of an existing older design. Think of this like a bespoke tailored suit. It is crazy expensive, and only fits you.

          What most of these tech companies are going for is called Small Modular Reactors (SMR). Think of this as like buying a ready-to-wear suit off the rack. Its not nearly as fancy or as impressive (usually much smaller power generation), but its not custom made so its much cheaper.

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      Businesses generating their own power is not anything new. The big auto manufacturers used to do it back in the day, and if you scale down the concept, every windmill (the grain grinding kind) and waterwheel built and operated for profit is the same thing. I’m just happy that Google is seemingly having their own built, instead of getting taxpayers to build it for them.

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        Yeah, if this is what it takes to get new design nuclear facilities in the US, then I’m counting it a win, but I won’t count it either way until the watts come out. Who knows: if they run ok, an actual power company might even try one.