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    Why do you support terrorists?

    The Empire has a right to defend itself

    Those Rebel Terrorists were using human shields

    The ones responsible for the destruction of Alderaan were those Rebel Terrorists, we gave a very humane 30 minute evacuation warning after all

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      The rebels destroyed Alderaan with their own superweapon they had been developing underground. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did fire on Alderaan, but it was a targeted, focused strike that hit a rebel facility which caused their superweapon to explode and destroy the planet, the Empire had no idea that would happen. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Death Star did destroy the planet, but the rebels were still developing a superweapon and even more people would’ve died otherwise. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the rebels weren’t developing a superweapon on Alderaan, but the destruction of the planet were the actions of a rogue moff acting without approval. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the Emperor’s right hand man was in the room when it was decided, but Emperor Palpatine has invited every surviving Alderaanian to his own private resort world, and they’re also rebuilding with a new colony on Ejolus. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

      OK, the colony on Ejolus has been wiped out, but they were harboring rebels. The Imperial Navy is the most moral force in the galaxy.

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    I know Vader choked the life out of the last person who questioned him, but I haven’t seen Leia do enough challenging media interviews.

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    ‘Princess’ establishment chosen Lyin’ Leiyah is clearly just trying to turn the empire back into the corrupt old Republic and force everyone to accept all aliens including the despicable Gran who don’t deserve rights because they don’t look or act like me. I heard she was even there when Alderaan was destroyed and did nothing.

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    Vader’s death Star may be pointing right at Yavin 4, but Leia doesn’t want to support the rights of Yavin 4 natives so they’re the same

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    Death Stars don’t kill people. Traitors who won’t give up the location of the secret Rebel base kill people.

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    I must have missed the part of the movie where Leia devotes a significant amount of her planets resources to building the deathstar while her constituents screamed for her to stop

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      Evidently you did, because it’s mentioned that she was a member of the Imperial Senate right up till it was dissolved. She participated directly in the government that built a weapon of mass destruction and used it to commit a genocidal act of state terrorism. Thankfully, a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, they never invented purity testing so people like you weren’t wrenching their spines in an effort to suck their own dicks about it.

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        She was still in the senate when her ship was captured by Vader at the beginning of Star Wars.

        Leia: I’m a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.

        Vader: You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a traitor.

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            Michelle Obama made a speech on this. Trump is not getting demands. She is.

            Mr Concept of a Plan after 8 years isn’t pushed at all. Meanwhile, we need more details on the articulated plans of Harris. It’s quite the mismatched standard.

            Also, Biden is her boss. She’s not the boss yet. New bosses do different things with the company when they take over.

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              And they don’t publicly undercut the old bosses while being second in charge especially in sensitive diplomatic situations.

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                Exactly. Maybe Harris is in lockstep with Biden on Israel or maybe it would just be a really bad idea to undercut him while she needs his support.

                Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.

                I’m old enough to remember that Al Gore didn’t rock the Clinton boat either. I doubt he would have been another Bill Clinton.

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                  Who knows? We won’t know until she’s actually in charge.

                  Trump Harris is just saying that to appease the Deep State Zionist voters, but once they’re in office, they’ll reveal that it was all an act and they’re actually going to do all the stuff we want. Trust the plan.

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            She was working in government with the intention of making things better

            She was literally working for an armed rebellion actively fighting a war with the aim of overthrowing the government.

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        Clearly, the solution is to vote in the Imperial Senate if you want to affect change.

        Unless you’re trying to say Kamala Harris is secretly working for Hamas or something?

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        Well you would have to have a spine to know what thats like so I understand why the people bravely tonguing the asshole of the administration lying to us and circumventing Congress to continue arming their pet dictator’s ethnic cleansing wouldn’t get it

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          Maybe if you plugged away at it for a while you could come up with an even more flaccid and contrived rebuttal.

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      I see that you understand that, much like a vice president, that is something someone with the powers of a princess can do.

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      Trump didn’t stop Jamal Kashoggi from getting murdered with a meat saw, so I guess they’re similar that way.

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      Yeah, all he did was help Palpatine build the Death Star, and it was Tarkin who actually gave the order. Do these anti-Vader people even understand what his role is as Sith Lord?

      These single-issue voters who refuse to vote for Vader just because of the Aderaan issue are just helping Palpatine. Why does everyone suddenly care so much about Alderaan anyway?

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        Humorless and missing the point deliberately as usual, I see.

        Meanwhile in the real world, Trump explains how he regularly phones up Netanyahu to convince him to ditch Biden’s ceasefire plan.

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          And Biden pretends to be upset about that while overriding congress to send him more weapons, completely unconditionally. Just like how he’s been unconditionally supportive of Israel his entire career.

          Don’t confuse your conspiracy theory cope that Biden or Kamala are secretly pro-Palestine, contrary to all their actions and statements, with “the real world.”

          At a certain point, arguing that they’re legitimately trying and failing to rein Netanyahu in, when he’s completely dependant on our protection, means arguing that they are so absurdly and comically incompetent that shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near the levers of power for fear that they might slip on a banana peel and catch themselves on the button that launches the nukes. They’re not idiots, they’re doing it because this is what they want.

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            I love how you talk so much about the Democrats as if the Republicans wouldn’t be worse and as if Trump hasn’t admitted to phoning Netanyahu frequently to tell him not to agree to Biden’s ceasefire plan.

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              My criticism of the Democrats has nothing to do with the idea of the Republicans “not being worse.” I just believe, unlike you, that truth doesn’t stop being true when it’s inconvenient. Party loyalty has rendered you completely incapable of acknowledging reality, whether you can’t see it, or whether you do see it but won’t admit what you see.

              I’ll ask again since you refuse to answer: do you think that Biden needs Trump’s approval to stop bypassing Congress to send weapons to Israel?

              Biden shits his pants “Why would Trump do this?”

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    In this analogy, did Princess Leia build the Death Star and blow up Alderaan? Ridiculous levels of whitewashing.