• kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.worldEnglish
      23·
      2 days ago

      How does one “master” the technique though? Anakin least of all. Like okay, we can imagine Qui-Gon discovered the technique, meditated on and developed it over years of his life and managed to get it right on his only chance to put it into action. Honestly, it is probably something that has long been attempted and he is just the first to get it right. Cool. And he used his ghost to teach Yoda and Obi-Wan, who also prepared over years to attain this state. But Anakin was not on good terms with any of them until his last minute shift. So… how did he even know about the technique, let alone master it?

      • Patch@feddit.ukEnglish
        3·
        12 hours ago

        If in doubt, you can always play the old “Chosen One” card to hand waive that sort of thing away.

        Mr “higher midichlorian count in history” Skywalker might get a free pass just because he’s magic.

        Which on balance probably means it was pretty lucky he did a redemption arc before he died, otherwise they’d have been stuck with an evil maniac in their immortal ghost club.

      • Metz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        16·
        2 days ago

        My knowledge of Star Wars lore is extremely spotty, but I would guess through Palpatine, no? He seems like an “cheat death” expert.

        • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.deEnglish
          12·
          2 days ago

          As far as I recall from interviews and such this actually requires love, of which dark siders aren’t capable. My guess is that Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan gave Anakin some flash instructions and he got it quickly due to being the chosen one.

          • GiveMemes@jlai.luEnglish
            13·
            2 days ago

            How can dark siders not be capable of love? Love is the very thing that caused Anakin to turn and the dark side is all about using your emotionality to your advantage. I’m not saying you’re wrong necessarily, just that whoever made that cannon is fucking stupid.

            • fsxylo@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              12 hours ago

              The dark side is a pyramid scheme except instead of money it’s your soul.

              So eventually you go emotionally broke and blame other people.

            • Björn Tantau@swg-empire.deEnglish
              13·
              2 days ago

              It wasn’t love that turned Anakin. It was his fear of loss. Love for his son actually let him find his way back to the light.

              By the end Anakin’s love for Padmé was twisted, cowardly and selfish. Palpatine manipulated it until just desperation was left. Anakin didn’t even trust her anymore when she confronted him on Mustafar.

              • freddydunningkruger@lemmy.worldEnglish
                4·
                14 hours ago

                People don’t understand, it wasn’t Anakin’s fault, it was the sand. Coarse, irritating, getting into and in the way of EVERYTHING. Little known fact, Alderaanian beaches had some of the worst sand in the galaxy.

              • marcos@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                1 day ago

                It’s really sad how in 2 movies we didn’t see enough of this for it to become obvious.

              • GiveMemes@jlai.luEnglish
                4·
                1 day ago

                Love and trust, contrary to popular belief, are not mutually exclusive. The perfect example is the parents of a shithead teen. Also, while I agree that Anakin was turned because of his bond and the way that Palpatine manipulated him through it, to say that he didn’t love Padme is simply untrue. What makes us fear loss of a loved one if they aren’t a loved one? Fear of loss is innately connected to his love for Padme, which is the reason that jedi aren’t supposed to have attachments so as not to be influenced by their emotions. The issue with it is that he stepped into the emotionality and let the fears, angers, etc. that come alongside love to win him over. Furthermore, it is unclear that he ever really returns from the dark side. He saves his son, but in doing so breaks the same code that he broke in order to try to save Padme. It just so happens that his son was one of the good guys. My argument here is that he was still a dark-sider, or at least quasi-darksider and could have still learned to become a force ghost through that.

  • Blackmist@feddit.ukEnglish
    12·
    1 day ago

    We watched the Fucked With Edition of episode 6 a couple of years back.

    My girlfriend stood up and shouted “what the fuck is he doing there!” and that’s just one reason she’s now my wife.

    4K83 if you want the real one.