The collapse of X should’ve been the movement to get rid of social media, not replace it with another identical platform
…he said on social media…
Okay, so it’s a link aggregate, but still.
Why everyone’s so happy about BlueSky and Threads though is what pisses me off, and it’s that’s they are in the safe arms of a corporate daddy.
Submissive little shites.
You’re not wrong about Lemmy also being social media, but I view it as my methodone for Reddit. Long term I think I will get rid of Lemmy too.
I already ask useful things on lemmy, find guides and read interessant articles, maybe Lemmy is not as bad as other socials
I think giving it up is sort of a cop out. It’s like saying because all new movies suck, that you should stop watching films.
The good thing about Mastodon I feel is that people are more sincere than what you’ll find here, or even on Threads.
I also think Beehaw has a good idea by being strict. If you dislike the brainrot, remove the brainrot. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
Despite the predictable dumpster fire of a comment section sharing this would inevitably lead too, I’m glad you shared it, it was a pleasant read.
So tired of hearing about this platform that, afaiu, is barely even federated and not really decentralized. Why the hype when fedi exists?
fediverse is great but it’s not for the general public, sadly.
this is the only argument repeated and no one ever comes up with exactly how it’s not for the general public, only that it isn’t.
and don’t say algorithms. the general public constantly laments about how algorithms have ruined everything.
There are a lot of reasons why. Mastodon apps are not pretty. The logo is not attractive. The signup where you need to pick the server for some reason is confusing. The reputation Mastodon already has among the general public, that it’s the place for Linux enthusiasts, is not doing it any more favors.
You say that the algorithms have ruined everything but it’s just not true. Discoverability is dead on Mastodon. The platform doesn’t suggest me any new people to follow. The vocal minority against the recommendation algorithms is just that, a vocal minority. Recommendations are useful if they are not obtrusive.
I’ve been trying to keep my Mastodon account active for two years and I’ve been posting some random shit the same way I did on Twitter. I’ve been looking for some fun idiots but there are none, it’s all uptight serious people who are honestly pretty insufferable to read. I deleted my Mastodon account half a year ago and the one thing I appreciate is how easy it was — just a couple of clicks and you’re done.
Because people are using it
A very vocal minority is using it, and only because Musk changed the moderation rules on X. Otherwise Twitter was as shit as it has ever been
Because there’s VC money behind it.
Bcuz fedi ass
says the person on fedi
I got banned from Reddit. I had no choice
I got banned from Reddit.
what for?
I’m getting Google+ vibes.
Pages that don’t work well with darkreader aren’t many, but when they do fail they fail somewhat entertainingly:
I hate that social media business news qualifies as “technology” these days.
It doesn’t, but the mods (not just these ones, but of any technology community) never seem to remove posts that aren’t actually about technology.
Because the definition of what is and isn’t technology is arbitrary. Wikipedia says “Technology is the application of conceptual knowledge to achieve practical goals, especially in a reproducible way.” By that definition, social media is a technology (uses knowledge of computers and networking to enable online communication), but also so are most human creations.
By that definition the wheel is technology. Should we start posting articles about slight changes to the chemical compound used in newer snow tires?
Ya why not?
Underpants are technolgy.
Honestly, I’d love to hear about ALL technologies on here, not just computer based ones.
The atproto architecture is technology though. Open source and all
When bluesky gets enshitified i wont be suprised. Imagine tge alternative reality we could have had if they chose activpub.
Doesn’t Threads use AP?
Yeah and contraversial take i think as long as there are strict rules about not allowing single direction federation or federating ads then they should be allowed to fededate.
I have a really hard time seeing a difference between X and Bluesky. Both are run by billionaires for their amusement and benefit. Why are people so hopeful about bluesky?
It’s run by a millionaire, not a billionaire. People like it because it’s Twitter without Musk. That’s it.
That’s a big motivator for the migration but that’s not “it,” people on bsky seem to prefer the way blocking on bsky works, especially since X made your posts visible to people you have blocked.
It doesn’t bother people that their blocks are public?
It bothers some people. I think it’s just something you need to be aware of. If you want to stop seeing someone’s posts without hurting their feelings or whatever, you could always mute.
What I think is a tougher problem is that if/when it actually federates with a third party, the third party may not treat blocks the same way. I haven’t looked at AT proto in while, I wonder if that is addressed or it will have to be a shrug.
Kinda how on Lemmy votes are hidden for plebs in the UI, but not on kbin.
Having used it for several days now, I can tell you the difference is that Bluesky is a lot like Lemmy - not filled with hate and vitriol, and easy to make it what you want by selecting your feeds and following things you care about while pruning the rest.
The people who can’t socialize properly with others are swiftly dealt with. Subscription blocklists make it really easy to just annihilate any possible interaction between yourself and undesirables. I have several blocklist subscriptions for MAGA chuds and White Supremacists for example. And when you block someone on Bluesky they can’t see what you write and you’ll never see anything from them ever again. Zero interaction from that point on. So the housekeeping actions actually keep the house clean.
Once you’ve done the initial housekeeping, it’s just full of people talking about cool stuff, and when someone crashes the party to be nasty they are quickly shown the door. It’s wonderful.
Also trying out Bluesky, and it is a lot like Twitter used to be, but it has the potential to turn out like Xitter is today, because at the end of the day Bluesky is a for-profit startup corporation.
Sooner or later, Bluesky is going to want to make money for its shareholders, and that means any of: 1) Selling advertisements, 2) Selling your personal data, and/or 3) In a classic tech startup play, selling itself to the highest bidder like: Android, YouTube, and yes, Twitter.
And with commercialization, or in Xitter’s case a fool with too much money, comes enshittification.
Lemmy is nothing like a for-profit startup company, as far as I know, but that doesn’t make it enshittification-proof, but at least it won’t take the commercialization route.
I was talking about the atmosphere, not the architecture.
It’s the best thing out there of its type right now. I’m not going to shit on it because of what might happen in the future. I’m sure something else will come along to move to if that happens.
Sounds like Mastodon.
It’s not the unusable firehose that mastodon is, and it’s a lot less fediverse-stanny. (it’s not actually federated yet).
I kind of like it, it feels like the right level of engagement, and there’s a culture of just block the assholes, grownups are talking.
It’s worth a few days to try it out. Nice place.
Dorsey is no longer involved with Bluesky.
Dorsey is THE founder of BLUESKY, and is it’s largest shareholder, even though he is no longer on the board, and went through the theater of closing his BLUESKY account, he will have the say as to who BLUESKY is sold to, when eventually it will be. Fool me once.
Oh, really? OK, that makes it definatelly less terrible. I guess I need to update myself about the organization behind it then. Thanks for the correction!
They got funding from Twitter and Jack was on the board for a bit, but he bailed and formally quit (funny enough he bailed because they did more moderation than he wanted)
Jack Dorsey founded bluesky, and is still it’s largest shareholder
Prove it or stop spamming this
He’s not involved with Twitter either. That doesn’t make it not terrible.
Because one of them is actively promoting and favouring viewpoints many people find abhorrent.
The fact it’s owned by a billionaire isn’t the major concern for most people.
Who’s the billionaire?
X Corp. is majorly owned by Elon Musk
I was talking about Bluesky.
Bkuesky was started by the former owners of Twitter.
Yes. Having centralized ownership (to whatever extent) is a concern for sure, but it’s a hypothetical concern in and of itself: “what if the leadership does bad things?” Is different from “the leadership is currently doing bad things.”
Decentralization helps. But if the networks effects aren’t behind it, jumping from platform to platform when things DO get bad is also viable.
Yep. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
The problem is not that they are billionaires. But one is run by an obvious malignant narcissist, and the other is not.
One is responsible the other is not.Here’s a very down to earth explanation of why Twitter after Musk became an ethical problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zfgIgZ4c0
Oh, gee, there’s this thing called Bluesky that’s an alternative to Xitter?
Never seen anything about it ever posted here and in every other community before, thanks for letting us know!
Black Death as a Viable Alternative for Cholera.
