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    Liberals don’t seem to understand that scolding is not effective. They’re arguing with maybe 100,000 leftists and Muslims on twitter and r*ddit while they lost seven million votes since 2020. That’s a hell of a lot of people that are not the ones they’re scolding online. The idea of “appealing to voters” is alien to them. People will vote for you if they like your positions

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        The ruling ideology and its two mythologies are so abstract and removed from material reality, they would sooner bring nonbelievers into the ballot box via catechism than slogans.

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      you expect liberals to take a position? even when they’re taking a position they deny it’s their position. liberals are spineless brainless racist trash. at least actual conservatives will tell you all the fucked up shit they think. liberals will walk right up to that line and then when you ask them if that’s what they’re saying they feign offense and act like you’re the bad person and you deserve to be scolded.

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        Like Bernie was making inroads into the “red wall” states in the middle of the us. There are many places where the right call can stir up many people.

        The people are looking to answers now, it is our call to give them ones.

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        I know this is a popular refrain in left circles, but it’s not entirely true. The Dems DO try to reach non-voters, or at least some of the many 501c4 orgs do this kind of outreach…

        Problem is you need something that people actually want to get them to give a darn. Who knew 🤷‍♂️

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          Elaborating without doxxing myself too much: I know for a fact that each battleground state had programs to reach every college student on every major campus in these states. Several million $ went into canvassing efforts per state to get college students out to vote. Whether it actually worked…

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            I’m not saying there was zero doorknocking, but the fact they only focus on “Battleground” states means they ignored everything besides the Presidential race, including and especially state and local elections. Trump’s ground game was better for the simple fact that he went and did rallies beyond the battlegrounds, which helped immensely with their whole election ticket. Trump held his 2020 election numbers, and Democrats lost votes compared to 2020 despite historical advantages for incumbent administrations.

            When I say The Democrats Ignore The Non-Voter I am pointing out that there are tens of millions that could be mobilized. It’s so overwhelming that it could flip Red States. Part of it comes from how the DNC top brass take for granted the non-battleground blue states in the same way they take for granted minority votes. It also why they try so hard for the Right, because (in their mind) that is the only vote that can flip. Fundamentally Democrats’ strategy for non-voters is disorganized, fragmented, and bereft of supported policies they can woo voters.

            Several million $ went into canvassing efforts per state to get college students out to vote. Whether it actually worked…

            I say this with all respect for people pounding pavement, but canvassing for college votes for the administration that cracked down on college protestors over Palestine is exactly the tone-deaf “strategy” of the DNC. It’s hard to argue that Palestine wasn’t just front and center, but that it also revealed many other ugly truths about Democrats.

            The end result is a party that is divorced from reality, and they reaped all what they (didn’t) sow. At this rate the Democrats have no chance in the 2026 midterms, nor the 2028 Presidency. I point all of this out because I do think leftists have an opportunity to exploit on these critiques and organize into an alternatives on the local level. From a constellation of local organizing we can affiliate into stronger coalitions for state and national power.