• ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world
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    It reminds me of the whole “don’t speak ill of the dead” as if them dying suddenly exonerates them from being a massive pile of shit while they were alive.

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    mind that if this were a black child shot in the back by a white supremacist they would be researching his life day and night to find maybe one photo where he made a weird hand sign so they can say he was no angel and maybe he was a gang member who knows …

    but an actual demon gets killed and the opposite campaign begins

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      Nah, they have definitely scoured back years of Facebook photos just to find a single one that isn’t gang signs or posing with an illegal-in-illinois handgun.

  • ɔiƚoxɘup@sh.itjust.works
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    Normally, I’d say it’s poor taste to speak ill of the dead. Normally.

    That’s not what the motivation is here. The media are

    • aware that the family can bury them
    • afraid to lose their jobs
    • beholden to their masters shareholders
    • trying to make this go away
    • not on the side of the American people
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    Well, other than drunk driving, insider trading, fraud and failing at his marriage and being a CEO of a firm that prevented people from getting the health care they need, he was a really nice guy.

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    If you’re a fucking millionaire, at least have the decency to hire a driver when you’re sauced. Ffs.

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    separated from his wife for years

    Remember that according to the FBI more than half of murderers know their victims personally, and about a quarter are family relations.

    I think the police really need to drop this whole “assassination” false flag and investigate the more probable angles. Could be that he was closeted and killed by a jilted lover, or the husband of the secretary he was banging, or a hitman hired by the estranged wife. No sense in harassing every man with a green jacket over this.

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      False flag? What are you on m8? Just gonna invenet your own narrative? The bullets had writing on that was a title of an book bashing g the industry…

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        From a movie hitman perspective sure. Real life “hits” don’t look like they do in the movies though. You can find videos of truly amateurish hits online easily. The most violent cities in US see them happen often. Whomever this person did this was calm, seemed disciplined, got the job done. On a scale from drive by to James Bond, I’d put him solidly in the middle.

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        Most ‘budget’ hitmen would have been caught by now. The average hitman is a local schlub who has no idea what they’re doing and can’t even afford to leave the city or neighborhood that they live in. The police speculate that the guy was from out of town and probably left the city ASAP. While we really have no idea what his story is, he probably is a slightly above average hitman if he managed to kill someone as important as Brian Thimpson and still evaded capture after almost a week.

        While murderers have been caught months or even years after the fact, those murders aren’t as brazen or open as this one was.

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        You think? An amateur would not have had that level of composure when the gun jammed. At a minimum they understood the limitations of their tools beforehand and was not surprised when it happened.

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          I don’t think it jammed, some kind of silencer issue where you have to manual reload. I don’t know guns just repeating talk I’ve heard. So the gunman would have known to manually reload like that…

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            He likely had an unregistered suppressor, which would lack a part that prevents jams. I’ve seen people saying he was probably accounting for the possibility of a jam

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              Yes I was dumbing it down but you’re both right. My point is that they new it would happen and was prepared for it, ensuring smooth operation regardless of the limitation.

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    Being separated from his wife is personal and not something I’d judge someone for. The rest is ok

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        Hard to say. By proxy implies every engineer, everyone who works on an oil rig cause that’s the available jobs etc etc. is evil. This guy didn’t directly kill anyone, but it’s hard to say by proxy. Unless you just mean proxy in the sense of “he ordered someone else to do it” in which case I agree.

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    And all that does not matter, he headed up a corporation which took peoples money to insure them against costs associated with their health care, and then denied paying out money his company had promised them when they needed it causing suffering and death. Those facts are indisputable.

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      Yes but have you thought of those poor shareholders? How are they going to afford to hire their yacht staff if they aren’t rolling in bank? Can’t let a little pain and suffering get in the way of that.

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    Props to Klippenstein, he’s consistently been an exemplar* of good journalism

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      Props to Klippenstein, he’s consistently been an examlar of good journalism

      When David Grusch testified that UFOs are real, Klippenstein made a point of exposing that Grusch had past issues with PTSD and alcoholism stemming from his service.

      Examlar indeed.

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          Yeah, it really makes anything he does invalid. The same as it would for you or I.

          Maybe I should also clarify: fuck business ghouls. I’m not here to defend health insurance.

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            It’s an important factor to consider when thinking about the credibility of his claims. That’s what journalism is supposed to do, give people the facts. I get that discussing people’s medical history and psychological condition is a sensitive subject, but when someone’s making public claims and accusations in front of congress about delusional stuff like “non-human spacecraft” and their dead pilots that level of scrutiny is justified.

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        lol. You guys had me looking up “examlar” thinking I was going to learn a new word.

        My hopes were dashed as I’ve discovered that you two just misspelled “exemplar”. Probably on purpose. I’m sure of it. How dare you!

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      Kenny Klipps does great work, one of the very few last bastions of actual journalism remaining in America.

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      True, but also consistently under fire for actually being a good journalist. If you’re reading this keep up the good fight!