What is the Shutdown 315 Movement?
Edit: Because of the number of negative and discouraging comments that are counterproductive to the message of this post, I have decided to remove select comments that discourage organization. I apologize in advance if your comment is removed inadvertently.
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Failure to be able to take basic constructive criticism is a huge red flag. Anybody trying to organize anything of this scale absolutely has to have a thick skin and be willing to take criticism, weed the bad criticism from the good, and make adjustments accordingly.
When you want to organize something of this size for “the people,”. it’s not your movement. It’s the people’s movement, and you’ve volunteered to work for them (which is extremely admirable). The people are going to have feedback on what shape they want their movement to take.
My feedback (again, since my original was deleted, and more verbose, since I’m on a roll)…
Any “movement” that tries to espouse a complete boycott of corporate America en masse, in favor of local mom and pop stores, and then in the same breath, recommends a specific corporate social media app while making no effort to even acknowledge the existence of (much less recommend) the fediverse (the social media equivalent of mom and pop stores), is failing a pretty basic test.
I am late to this thread, and intrigued and on board with Shutdown 315.
Mostly, though, I want to say THANK YOU to @TokenBoomer for the removals on this page. When someone’s trying to organize something, people popping in to say it’s futile and pointless are simply assholes, and assholes are counterproductive for organizing.
I regret doing it. It goes against my ethos of allowing open discussions. Thanks for understanding why it was necessary.
You’re entitled to disagree with both you and me (: but I’ll continue thinking you’ve done the right thing.
Flat Earthers who show up at meetings of the Planetary Society should be shown the door.
On a Saturday? Really going to slow those wheels.
ITT: Losers whine about why they don’t want to get off their ass to improve their lives.
We’re all losing our jobs and becoming homeless if this shit continues
Quite frankly, I won’t try because it won’t get widespread enough outside select Internet communities. Unless unions get on board, which they won’t, it’s not going to have the momentum to get an actual effect, as much as I would love to try.
well, call the unions
Just a ray of sunshine 🌞
Man it’s going to be great when all 50 of us get fired from our jobs.
Wake me up when normies are on board. I’m not fucking up my life for nothing.
And then nothing ever changed
The end
This post is going nowhere because it doesn’t have realistic backing of anyone significant. So no, this post isn’t going to change anything, even if I decide to sacrifice my job for some rando trying to start a movement.
Wake me up when it gets any significant traction
sounds like you sleep all the time I doubt you’ll keep your job like this anyway
Look at the 50 protests in 50 states that just happened. A couple thousand people showed up out of hundreds of millions. And that’s much less of a sacrifice than risking your livelihood.
Wow look they’re all still in power and ripping shit apart.
Almost like they don’t fucking care if people stand around wirh signs.
Maybe we should try another strongly worded letter.
Oh i know, lets do a big petition in bold font!
Psyops: Let’s help the little people get it out of their systems… Let’s get them to stand around with signs just like the good old days and put up a few posts on social media to organise it. They’ll soon give up and learn to accept it.
I’m saying Americans are too lazy and domesticated to do what’s necessary when peaceful protests inevitably fail
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How would you organize?
Poorly because I have a family to take care of, and bills to pay.
Can we stop making random calls like this on social media? We need actual organization and leadership to be directing this stuff.
Shout out to
99% of people will never even know this is a thing. It’s going to have more negative impact on low wage earners who show up than anything else.
Maybe you should join the organization and let them know.
Take charge then.
Every journey begins with the first step, put your shoes on.
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So, no one can protest for better living conditions, because you can’t? Sorry about your situation, but that is exactly why we are organizing. If you are not able to participate, that’s fine. You may be resigned to defeatism, but please don’t discourage others from wanting to improve the conditions in which we all live. If you have a better plan to resist, I’m sure others would like to hear it.
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Every time someone encourages action there’s always someone to step in and say “it won’t work.”
You sound like you have a lot of great ideas, you should try to link up with people and join in and try to help organize! A lot of it can be done whenever you have a bit of time, everyone is valuable and capable of contributing in someway.
People are freaking out right now, I bet there are social circles/groups in your town that are very concerned and would be open to setting up secure communications with like-minded people. It really is as easy as going to the local coffee shop or gay bar and leaving/reading a flyer, get involved.
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Then contact your Democratic representatives and get the ball rolling.
As if Democrats actually do anything to stop Trump
Then try the DSA.
This kind of organization doesn’t really work, you cant just set a day without a strong organized backing
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You can always contact the organizers and constructively offer help, I’m sure they would welcome it.
Then contact them and help them organize.
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The substack link for Shutdown 315 is at the bottom of the post.
My fiancee works in elder care as a cook. If she stops working then vulnerable people go hungry. That goes triple for the medical staff.
So while I’m on board with the idea, everyone needs to remember that some people need to do their jobs no matter the situation, or else it’s counterproductive to the cause, not to mention just wrong overall.
They are a cook. They aren’t a fuckin’ heart surgeon. They can prepare meals the day prior. Or buy some fuckin’ frozen burritos.
You are the reason this will fail. You and your fiance.
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And it’s that mentality that’s used to take advantage of people who care. The care home / provider is responsible for the welfare of its patients, and, if she’s e.g. ill, they still have to find someone to replace her.
Ya know eveytime I see these I wonder, “how did the Arabs do it?” They actually did something in Egypt. We can’t even agree to take the same day off.
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materialist differences
Significant organizational differences, as well. Egypt has a much more nationalized economy. Also, a lot of these movements are managed at the grassroots level through networks of mosques.
Americans - particularly the terminally online liberals - hate religious organizations. They’re mostly corporate hacks or gig workers. And they think half the people in their social media channel are either cops or tankies or cops posing as tankies.
How do you organize on those grounds?
I think someone set one of these up for Feb 28 already, might be better to join up rather than have a bunch of them?
Why not do both?
Because its stupid not join forces and form a union. Jesus its a big enough task to motivate thr sorry losers in the shithole country nevermind if you tell them they can come in two weeks if today doesnt suit.
In general, people will not be able to keep their jobs after “protesting” twice in 2 weeks. Let’s focus everyone’s attention on just one event so the impact is greater.
Good idea, tell the organizers.
I would expect that one bigger event would have more effect then several smaller ones
Good luck, he would probably win another election today. Cant save a democracy where the electorate is stupid.
How do you think fascism arose in Germany? Was it a complex process set forth by the treaty of Versailles, embarrassment after WWI, rapid technological advancement by Germany, instability from the great depression, instability in the Weimar republic, etc…
Or do you really think fascism just comes out of the aether when somehow millions of voters become “stupid” all of a sudden?
We should probably try though, because of the implications.
Might be better off signing up here. They’re trying to get commitments for a general strike.
They document working on narrowing their demands more specifically once they hit certain goals.
I like the fact that they have a trigger-point based on historical effectiveness. No offense to absolutely anyone that is willing to protest or resist in any way, but this organization is focused on a results-based strike, not merely “sending a message”.
That looks like a lot more practical approach.
I signed up and asked about 20 people to sign it. ✊🏻
I’ll Post It.
I wish you best of luck to fight against your authoritarian and early-fascist regime.
Nevertheless it’s also possible to let the US burn down and join the united states of Europe. We need more (left) minded people as well before it’s too late like in the US.
Banning Science and specific topics in education…that’s how it began here in Germany
Fuck democracy. Let’s take this bitch by force.
— y’all
Troll comment, but I’ll bite. It’s a fun opportunity for inappropriate analogies!
Winning with just shy of 50% on the total vote does not grant you a mandate from heaven to assfuck the other 50%+ of constituents. Consent of the governed and all that.
The losers accept a certain degree of non-consensual edging for the sake of getting along. Not how they’d like things, but as long as the pants stay on they can put up with it until the next election. If you start acting like you won the entire continent and the asses of the peasantry belong to you, you’re probably gonna learn why the previous administrations didn’t push the system that far.
Really appreciate that. Thanks.
