A foot patrol of the French unit operating within the UNIFIL reserve force came under fire from an Israeli army position while inspecting an earth barrier recently erected by Israeli forces in the Wadi Qatmoun area, on the outskirts of the Lebanese town of Rmeish, according to the National News Agency (NNA).
You know what that means? Time for world leaders to write some very harsh ‘we don’t know anything until format investigation is finalized’ bullshit letters.
sTaBiLiTy In ThE rEgIoN
Sounds like Casus Belli to me, lets fucking go
We found out recently that a brother of a colleague was murdered in Palestine. They were part of a convoy with Red Crescent, whose location was shared with the Israelis. At least 11 people were executed and burried, including him. All ambulances and trucks were destroyed.
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I wish the French military had the reputation that the French population have.
The French Foreign Legion is actually pretty badass
Hell yeah
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How bout that Israel backed Morocco in the berm and the French backed Algerians housing the native western Saharans. Largest conveyor belt in the world you can see from space drinking milk shakes for Israel.
Not sure killing civilians is the way…
There are no civilians in Israel. There’s conscripted soldiers, and future conscripts.
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Are you ok?
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Just a bad idea
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We aren’t ready for war
Yanks and Russkis are
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War were declared
Yeah the USS Liberty would like some justice finally. The only thing Israel likes more than bombing it’s friends is bombing brown kids.
I wish they’d just return fire for once.
Its absurd that they dont. And that the security council countries doesnt reinforce the positions fired upon and return fire with 100 times the force. Having a veto in the Un should come with a lot of responsibilities.
I think France should retaliate in this specific situation but if their standard procedure were to take 100 eyes for an eye then the world would be burning.
For real these UNFIL patrols are supposed to fight back against agression.
It is getting painfully obvious they only exist to surpress armed resistance against the occupiers.
seems to me they are there to document but not prevent. If they are there to support the occupiers as you said, why would the occupiers fire on them?
Because they are supposed to keep a demilitarized zone.
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Any country with a half-decent military would wipe the floor with Israel in a fight, but almost everyone with the ability to do that has been tamed by Uncle Sam.
Of all people I’d think it would be the French, they don’t fuck around.
Our current government is openly pro-israel and anti-palestinian, we’re not gonna do squat.
They’ve been calling any criticism towars bibi and any palestinian support antisemitic for the past 2 years - and most of the billionaires-controlled media has happily done the same.
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True. And so am I for letting them get awaywith it.
Unfortunately I think only the foreign legion would have been likely to fire back here, and I don’t think they they do much peacekeeping.
Send in the fucking Swedes.
Absolutely no shit taken by Swedish peacekeepers when either side of a conflict shoots at them.
IDF would shit their pants if they had to face actual modern warfighters. Basically all of their victories are against malfunctional ME militaries and irregular fighters, to say nothing about the base atrocities they are committing against defenseless people.
Hey, they did take on that US Navy ship that one time.
The Liberty was an unarmed naval ship
The people who were really vocal about that are awfully quiet under Trump.
E: how the fuck are people reading this and twist this as some hidden defense of Israel is utterly beyond me. It was a jab at racists’ hypocrisy, that’s all.
They are still pretty vocal. Maybe you do not possess object permanence skills.
I like how liberal pseudo-Zionists will do their best to pretend pro-Palestinians aren’t criticizing the Gaza genocide now because it’d contradict their assumption that all criticism of the Zionist political establishment must come from Russians, trolls or MAGAts.
I don’t think that’s what is meant by that comment.
Back about a decade ago now, the USS Liberty ‘incident’ was a bugaboo of Alex Jones and many other right wing conspiracy theorist types…
…who were correct in that yes, that is a thing that happened, it was basically covered up for decades, and almost no one knew about back in the 00’s and 10’s, and that the Israeli government and AIPAC have a huge amount of influence over US politicians and political discourse generally…
… but were very incorrect in then just slap dashing it into their growing conspiracy centric view of the entire world, which very, very often actually was just anti-semitic generally, utterly oversimplifying and overnarrativizing their understanding of ‘how things actually work’ into insane nonsense.
Fast forward 10 years, and basically all the people that were really concerned about the USS Liberty attack, you know, anti-Israeli government/military… well now they are basically all ardent Trump supporters, they all love violent Israeli genocidal expansionist Zionism, but also somehow simultaneously think Trump is … anti-war or something?
I am of course guessing and cannot read Birch’s mind… but yeah, if you come from a right wing upbringing and then later realized how bs that worldview is, like myself, and possibly like Birch…
It is indeed quite notable how much of a total 180 shift that is, amongst the right wing conspiracy theory types, and I think that is what they are referring to.
I don’t think they are saying that those (mostly liberals, progressives and leftists) who’ve been vocally opposed to the Israeli genocide of Gaza (and everything else its now grown into) in the past few years suddenly changed their opinions about that in the last few months.
Thanks for defending me in such an eloquent way, I was just pointing out that the racist pieces of shit from some years ago who couldnt shut their traps about “the jews” are now all steadfast behind Trump and Israel and their crimes against humanity.
I guess some people just want to see discord where there is none.
I had a hunch, looks like I was basically right.
I… come from a family that’s… well let me just put it this way:
The last time I talked to my dad, I think 3 years ago now at this point, he was fully, fully down the QAnon rabbit hole, told me about how Tom Hanks’ son rapes and kills children, after extracting their adrenochrome… and he then proceeded to show me how he partially mills, taps, and assembles AR 15s and 18s in his garage, having sourced parts that don’t have serial numbers… thats what you call a ghost gun.
He is exactly the kind of person that does these 180 flip flops and … either doesn’t remember he did, or has an elaborate nonsensical excuse/explanation.
I am unfortunately way, way too familiar with basically nearly every right wing conspiracy theory that’s existed in the last 40 years.
… I actually have Jewish cousins, and … yeah, basically since as long as I can remember, he’s made bigoted ‘jokes’ either behind their backs or occasionally even actually at family functions.
My dad is my archetype for MAGA people: an abusive alcoholic narcissist asshole with no friends, who is never wrong, proficient in gaslighting, life didn’t go the way he wanted it to, and it’s all the fault of whoever right wing AM radio/ Fox News/ insane facebook posts and shit tier ‘journalist’ grifters told him to be mad at in the last week.
… thats all probably a bit more info than necessary, but I’m still pretty traumatized from a life time of that, and venting helps lol.
I guess that’s also a possible interpretation.
I don’t think they are saying that those (mostly liberals, progressives and leftists) who’ve been vocally opposed to the Israeli genocide of Gaza (and everything else its now grown into) in the past few years suddenly changed their opinions about that in the last few months.
There are people who legitimately think (or hsve convinced themselves to think) so, but I guess Birch isn’t necessary one of them.
What the fuck are you talking about?
This argument around here is usually used to criticize pro-Palestinians for not falling in line with the DNC, with the idea being that they’re all MAGAs or Russian trolls who wanted to sow division inside the anti-Trump coalition and don’t actually care about Palestine. If that assumption was true, the number of people in online criticizing the US government’s support of Israel would go down significantly after the election and especially after Trump’s inauguration. Well, at least around here that didn’t happen, but liberal pseudo-Zionists really like to pretend it did because otherwise they’d have to admit they were wrong. Anyway what I’m trying to say is: It might be a good idea to specify that you’re talking about MAGA next time, because otherwise many people here will assume you’re talking about the anti-Zionist left as that’s the overwhelmingly more common version here.
That is way too construed for me, who even thinks like that? I just tried to poke fun at their hypocrisy, apparently I have to specify an allegiance when doing a shit take
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The fuck are you lot on about
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What?
Exactly, this is something lost in propagandizing this as a war and not a genocide, the IDF does not know how to fight a combined arms conflict at infantry level nor are they motivated in a professional military sense, they have just been practicing genocide with very expensive machines of war and dropping an incomprehensible amount of bombs in a shockingly tiny area which I would imagine among other things makes you poorly mentally equipped with no mental plasticity to handle the speed and lethality of a motivated, near-peer opposing military that isn’t already conveniently contained within an open air prison.
This is going to end very badly for jews and people in general living in Israel, which among other reasons (obviously) is why the Palestinian Genocide is catastrophic.
Like without the infinite arms supply and backing of US air power dominance, an IDF brigade in Ukraine would get steamrolled by the Ukranians or the Russians for that matter.
They are using F-35s armed with half-million dollar bunker-busters against men armed with cheap AKs and sandals that also hide behind children inside hospitals, so when they inevitably die by a strike, they can blame the other for being inhumane monsters.
(Evidence for resistance fighters hiding behind hospitals missing)
Please explain to me, because I’m dumb, why are Israelis bombing hospitals and schools then?
I am legit dumb and ignorant and wish to learn; and I am not trying to troll here, I am genuinely asking you to explain why resistance fighters are hiding behind hostages?
Theyre trying to destroy all infrastructure so the civillians they dont kill flee instead, Ethnic cleansing uses genocide and displacement to acheive its goals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba this has being going on since the forties.
I did not know about the Naqba. Thank you for the wiki link!
The IDF is bombing schools and hospitals because they’re carrying out a genocide.
Resistance fighters aren’t hiding behind hostages, that’s unchecked libel. In fact Israel has demonstrated repeatedly that it is willing to kill it’s own people to kill resistance fighters.
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why are Israelis bombing hospitals and schools
Because hospitals keep Palestinians alive and schools teach Palestinians about the crimes against humanity Israel has been committing for almost 80 years.
Also, they generally want to destroy everything resembling Palestinian societal infrastructure and culture, so such vital institutions are amongst their favorite targets.
Because Israel is committing genocide against civilians not resistance fighters.
I don’t think this is true, otherwise i could ask: so why don’t they simply napalm the entire refugee camps they forced most of Gaza into? Because so far they aren’t completely wiping refugee camps just targeting insurgent operations within them
Committing a full blown genocide in one night is not going to work. They already study this shit. You have to do gradually and with in a tolerance because the world is now watching. At the beginning when they didnt have numbers, they will genocide a full villages and build on graves. You can find these information in wikipedea. Now days with cameras every where they calculate how many they can kill daily where they can have a long case saying we didnt genocide people.
This is to answer your question, but you also need to keep in mind what a genocide is. Erasing culture and identity is part of it which they do by replacing olive farms with pine trees on top of destroyed villages, or claiming a Palestinian cuisine as their own, or reducing the representation of Palestinian in pop culture. Targeting painters, poets, scientist, destroying children live by taking them hostages in prisons, and abusing them so they come out with lack of self identity and broken mentality.
You have to read about their history and the systematic genocide they are committing if you really care about known why and whats going on.
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“Riddle me this: Why are they killing them slowly if they want them dead?”
Why are they cutting off food and water to starve every Palestinian in Gaza then?
Simply because they know it’s not something they could get away with. They’re smart enough though to have people like you believe that’s not what they want, I’ll give’em that. What they’re after is what they think they can achieve, which is to ethnically cleanse Gaza and the West Bank altogether and push the Palestinians out, and they’re using what hamas did and whatever lies they spiced up on October 7th as an excuse. The world is watching, and that’s the only thing stopping them from doing what they had done many times back when technology wasn’t there to show their horrific crimes over the past 80 years…
Because that is how you get them to leave.
I don’t know how to break this to you, but genuine good guys don’t hold innocent people as hostages and unnecessarily risk innocent lives; freedom fighters protect who they fight for. Please help me change my mind, I’m being serious.
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I don’t know how to break this to you, but genuine good guys don’t hold innocent people as hostages and unnecessarily risk innocent lives
Which is exactly what Israel is doing.
Please help me change my mind, I’m being serious.
No. You clearly aren’t. Stop pretending you’re not a willfully blind Hasbarist.
How is that relevant to the fact that Israelis love blowing up hospitals and schools?
They aren’t good guys, but Israel is literally evil when they murder innocents when there is no justifiable threat. I don’t know what indoctrination convinced you that tens of thousands of innocent civilians is a justifiable cost. None of this defendable.
Ya, they also have a massive wall and complex defense systems to take down missile. There is literally no threat. It’s almost like it’s just an excuse to kill civilians.
Fucking war criminals
