Cory Booker has been filibustering for a while, but there’s no legislation that he’s stalling.
Liberals are donating over this 😭😭😭 bro is gonna send another billion dollars to Israel next week just you watch
I’m not an expert on Senate rules but this seems like a strange thing to do. If the Dems were serious on gridlocking the Senate they should not be providing unanimous consent on things like adjourning and all the other procedural points of order. But that would require them to do things like not go on book tours. I was under the impression that you could silent filibuster for 36 hours on every point of order or w/e the correct term is.
I was under the impression that you could silent filibuster for 36 hours
Yeah - but then there’s no video to be used for campaigning of a dem “standing up to Trump”. :(
Even with universities that got too woke,” Booker said, “the antidote to that isn’t to try and shut down the thought of the left, it’s to try to make a fair, more competitive marketplace.”
beyond cooked
“Both sides are to blame” I say as the Nazis shoot me in the head after they had just shot an avowed communist
What’s there for them to protest?
Democrats are just the moderate wing of the Republican party.
Oh no not the dreaded SLAM
CORY BOOKER COMING IN FROM THE TOP ROPES AND SLAMS DONALD TRUMP!!
BY GAWD IT’S FETTERMAN WITH THE CHAIR
Are they doing a 500x match up donations in support???
Meh, just ladder of engagement/lead generation BS
Based on their others it’ll be a survey that only “submits” if you add $$$
I hate when they do that. Or when they say there’s a survey and I think, “Oh! So these are the way people are getting surveyed. I’ll answer it to get my opinion heard.” But the last step to submit the survey is say how much monrh you’re donating.
The longest filibuster on record was a 1957 speech by then-Democratic Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina — in opposition to the Civil Rights Act — that lasted for 24 hours and 18 minutes.
Media reported at the time that Thurmond sustained himself with “diced pumpernickel and bits of cooked hamburger” and sips of orange juice. His aides set up a bucket in the cloakroom so he could keep a foot on the Senate floor if he needed to relieve himself.
Listen, if he can knock Strom Thurmond off the leaderboard, I guess that’s cool. Other than that, not sure what is to gain out of this. Seems pretty performative to me.
His aides set up a bucket in the cloakroom so he could keep a foot on the Senate floor if he needed to relieve himself.
this is the kind of pointless rituals that you read about in stories of weird kings courts. “Nooo my foot hasnt crossed this line yet, so I can continue talking and while I am talking this law thats gonna affect over 100 million people cannot get voted on and if I am annoying enough the opposition is going to drop it!!” - a very serious legislative body
If there isnt even a law being filibustered I guess it’s finally crossed the threshold into simulacrum
It is however precedent. If hexbear helps me get elected to the senate, I pledge to shit in a bucket on the floor every day. I will put John Fetterman to shame.
you’ll need a massive bucket and a very strict diet
String cheese and malt liquor. Nothing else for my entire term.
edit: Actually the US Senate cafeteria menu isn’t bad. I’ll do that for lunch but otherwise only consume string cheese and malt liquor.
Finally an honest politician who stands by his campaign promises
I didn’t say I’ll be an honest politician, just one who shits in a bucket and makes the rest of the senate endure that every time it’s in session. Otherwise I’ll be a very corrupt politician.
Imagine thirty or so glassy eyed old fucks looking in the direction of your foot while you rock one in the closet.
Don’t forget that he’s actively pissing when using the bucket
The chamber bucket was attended to by his knaves so milord could keep his rousing speech going without removing his foot from the deliberation floor, thus securing the blockage of the law by tiring out the lords who had put it forth. The realm was safe once more.
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His aides set up a bucket in the cloakroom so he could keep a foot on the Senate floor if he needed to relieve himself.
Classy.
real ones get an external catheter
I woulda just pissed myself while making eye contact with as many people as I could.
But I guess I’m built different.
That’s literally it. At least when they teach who has the longest filibuster record, they won’t mention Thurmond anymore. I don’t remember exactly, but I feel like when I learned that tidbit in school, they left out the part where he was filibustering the civil rights act. They just focused on the feat and the fact that he “cared so deeply about his cause”
At least when they teach who has the longest filibuster record, they won’t mention Thurmond anymore.
But that’s a perfect lesson for what the filibuster is and why it continues to exist.
It’s a tool for the worst people in government to stop progress even without a majority.
I honestly hope the record isn’t broken.
they left out the part where he was filibustering the civil rights act
Although yeah, it’s important to include that part.
It’s a tool for the worst people in government to stop progress even without a majority.
It’s just a tool. If we actually had a single principled anti-imperialist senator they’d filibuster each bill granting Israel military aid by reading off names of Palestinians who were killed. Obviously in a proper democratic system this garbage wouldn’t exist, but you wouldn’t need to go to such extremes for democracy to work in a proper democratic system.
If we actually had a single principled anti-imperialist senator they’d filibuster each bill granting Israel military aid by reading off names of Palestinians who were killed.
lol they would immediately end the filibuster if that happened. Or come up with some excuse for why they could end that specific filibuster.
Though really, there would easily be 60 votes to break it anyway.
I get where you’re coming from, but it would be lost on eighth graders
And I take it the libs of the day didn’t even try to yank the racist fuck out of the chambers?
it’s called civility, kiddoI hate civility. Civility = appeasement
Joe Biden’s good friend
The democrats finally get a win by entering the Guinness book of records
Glazing McCain right now, LOL.
I have Termux on my phone, and I use a bash script as the
~/bin/termux-url-openerthen uses yt-dlp to download the video on whatever site I shared to the app via the systems “share” interface. So, if I see a YouTube video I want to re-upload, I share it to Termux, and it automatically downloads the video to my phone. yt-dlp doesn’t just download YouTube videos, either. It works on numerous sites. So I can download a Reddit video, Twitter video, TikTok video, etc. and quickly re-upload it to https://tankie.tube/ for example.That rules
How did this end up in this thread.
the power of poasting
Maybe you want to repost Comrade Booker’s heroic filibuster speech to Tankie Tube
I was thinking about how an organized opposition party would have a plan to swap in new speakers as each one rests to halt the system but he did this with no plan and no explicit backing and I’m realizing
This is liberal adventurism.
He got Schumer and a few others to step in for his potty breaks.
if you’re not willing to catheterize yourself and pee into a bag concealed under your suit, do you even Love America?
It’s a holding strategy, something libs can point to so they can tell leftists to shut up while we wait for midterms
Is he just trying to make ad footage for his “50th Time’s the Charm!” Presidential run in 2028?
I tuned in for like two minutes and I thought I was watching a Key and Peele sketch
Neat.
This is just a warmup for Hands on a Hardbody and boy I tell ya he’s going to win that fuckin truck
What’s the point of this post?
Could they do more? Of course, they could always do more. But ffs someones doing SOMETHING let’s just appreciate that so other can feel empowered to do something (maybe even more)
If the “SOMETHING” they’re doing may as well be nothing, then are they really doing anything at all?
Chuck Schumer: I think I can sum up the party strategy for you in one word. Nothing.
Leftists: Nothing?
Chuck Schumer: Nothing.
Leftists: What does that mean?
Chuck Schumer: The strategy is about… nothing!
Liberals: Well, it’s not about nothing.
Chuck Schumer: No, it’s about nothing.
Liberals: Well, maybe in philosophy, but even nothing is something.Democrats’ Political Project: Invest Us with Real Power and We Will Do A Few Symbolic Things
real Wizard of Oz ass shit.
I could be wrong but the point is it’s not part of interrupting a vote or even coming close to disrupting anything. It’s basically like hanging out in the senate building and talking for a while but making sure to do it in a way to not bother anyone or do anything of consequence but to show how much you “care” (enough to not make a scene to disrupt anything real).
Also if this is the “something” that the most powerful members of the liberal party can do. lol. Lmao even
If he was doing a legitimate filibuster he could be voted down (and would be voted down by the Dems) doing it this way no one can stop him, he’s disrupting the whole Senate unilaterally
Well I think you misunderstand the point of the post. The point is that Corey knows where and when the congressional baseball games take place but refuses to take a swing ⚾️
The problem is if he did this during legislation to do an official filabuster 60 votes could vote him down and the progressive wing of the fascist party would join with the GOP to vote him down
By doing so no he’s giving a “Speech” and there for can’t be voted down and is wasting time
This isn’t something though, this is nauseating #Resistance theater from actual babykillers
You all edit your posts a lot here lol, want to clarify don’t disagree with the baby killer part, and it may bite me in the ass that this was in the end a distraction from the genocide. However I don’t believe it is, wanted to clarify the point lol
It can be both theater and something. To use an extreme point, the Guillotines were theatrical.
He’s thrown away one day of Senate procedure, and is not able to be stop until he sits or shuts up.
What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start? Expecting the Dems to be leftist is like expecting ducks to bark. We need to pat them on the head when they’ve done the bare minimum otherwise we won’t even get that.
I’m sorry the world works that’s way, I also wish it didn’t but that’s how it is.
Guillotines were invented as the most humane way to execute someone with the technology available at the time. Also during that time public executions aren’t uncommon, the French revolution didn’t introduce the theatrics they just used what was at the time the modern method of execution. The point of the guillotine wasn’t the theatrics it was the killing of your class enemies. Executions in general were held in public already cause it was really fucking easy to get away with crime back then so making public examples was the best they could do in their minds and the same idea of making an example extended to the French revolution. It was the poor being guillotined for petty crimes before and they were using the instruments of the oppressor that was already in place.
Nothing about what you’re saying is wrong, however if you don’t think there was also a layer of theatrics in the public executions of the aristocrats where they chopped their damn heads off… I have no clue what to say to you to convince you to otherwise lmfao
Theatrics btw are not bad. If you’re being purely pragmatic then people will never give a fuck about you, the problem is “Pure Theatrics” you also need substance.
Which is why I used the guillotine as an example, it had substance and it has theatrics.
Do you thinking when Mussolini’s body was publicly desecrated there wasn’t any theatrics or point to it? Do you think Sherman’s scorching the land to bring terror in the hearts of slave owners had no theatrics?
Do you think a dude pissing in a bucket so he can keep rambling nonsense is even remotely similar?
You’re jumping all over the place bro.
Yes I do, it’s a smaller scale. He’s got people’s attention, the people are saying “do this more often” maybe more days will be disrupted.
Better than no days disrupted
I think you just have a piss fetish
What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start
It would have been very cool if, going back to 2016, they hadn’t intentionally boosted Trump as part of a sociopathic plan to raise the likelihood of Hillary winning the general election (you can see how well that turned out), I think I would have definitely preferred that
Right now I would prefer if they were all thrown into a pit so that leaders who aren’t at BEST feckless and incompetent and AT WORST literally fascist collaborators could step in and actually offer real opposition
instead we’re getting dipshits jerking themselves raw over how RADICAL CIVILITY will defeat Trump (and people like you
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eat me liberal
Look bro, if there’s a violent revolution to overthrow capitalism I’ll be there in the trenches fighting with you, but unless you’re willing to put your money where your mouth is and fire the first shot you’re just all talk.
You are a frog in a pot being boiled alive, except the frog has the sense to escape. You’re not going to vote the fascists out, your leaders are useless or collaborators, the consequences of that should be really fucking clear. But yeah, lol, I’m the idiot 🙄
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the real marxists are the ones who clap like trained seals over liberals doing pointless bullshit #resist
Invoking Lenin to justify any level of support to Cory fucking Booker is hilarious my dude lmao
People are calling you a liberal because of how aggressively you’ve reacted to the idea that this whole thing is performative brand polishing and nothing more. Sometimes we all get a little too excited for any hope out there but like this is straight up not it. The Dems have been running this playbook for decades with great results! For their donation numbers and effectively tricking just enough people into thinking there is any shred of hope within the moderate wing of the fascist party. Apparently that sometimes even works on people who are aware that the party itself is fascist which is a crazy testament to just how well it works
It can be both theater and something.
Yes, an act can be both theater and make a material difference. This is not though, it is only theater and devoid of anything meaningful or material. He wouldn’t be doing it otherwise because he represents the same ruling class the republicans do, you goddamned fool.
Also get the fuck out of here with your “I’m more leftist than you!” bullshit while talking about how we have to give our explicit ruling class enemies a “pat on the head” for pretending they’re presenting any kind of opposition. Many of us here have been organizing and providing mutual aid for decades, and even if you’re not lying about the actual material work you’ve done (which I doubt), it doesn’t change the fact that your advocating for liberal, bourgeois politicians doing performative kayfabe undeniably makes you also a liberal with zero knowledge of theory or any understanding of what’s actually happening here.
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What would you have preferred the Dems have done to start?
Well, since you mentioned guillotines…
Doing SOMETHING (nothing) after agreeing to all other Republican measures lmao
Dude what’s with everyone here. I’m not going to disagree with you, but he’s doing something now. He can’t change the past he’s also not the monolith, hes talked about it in his speech. He heard people complain about what you’re saying and he’s trying to start to do something.
He even acknowledged it’s not enough and his colleagues need to do more but he thought he should start somewhere because someone needs to start to disrupt shit somewhere.
I agree with your frustration and frankly on your post probably your politics as well, however if we’re just gonna be doomed about everything all the time than people will think “nothing pleases these people”
Why are we not saying “yes this. more of this. Disrupt and stop all procedures every day don’t let them do anything”
Because he won’t do anything, friend. Dems like Booker have had years to do anything of subtance and have been devoted to missing every chance to flex their power when they are in control. This isn’t purity politics, “letting perfect be the enemy of good”, this is recognizing it’s a futile and comical gesture to appear like he’s doing something of worth.
Leftists have been not only calling on liberal politicians to do something, anything of import for decades, but also trying to spread awareness that it is simply not in the interest of any Democratic Party member to actually shake up the American politcal landscape. They depend upon this late capital hellscape’s status quo, on its slow descent into bald faced fascism and self cannibalization (not to mention the ever accelerating ravaging of the Global South), token gestures mean nothing because no amount of cheering or jeering from the sidelines will get them to do anything useful.
I don’t disagree with anything you’re saying but I fail to see how what he’s doing is viewed as not doing anything.
He already threw one days session away. That’s small but it’s not nothing it is mostly nothing though won’t disagree there lol.
That said it’s gotta start somewhere, idk what the point in shitting on someone for doing something (even if it’s small) is going to accomplish.
That said I appreciate your comment it’s fair points.
He’s demonstrating that doing nothing, a purely performative gesture, is enough to get people like you to clap and donate.
He’s moving the Overton window on Trump resistance from barely effectual to absolutely toothless.
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Explain your weird metaphor
The point is they’re doing literally nothing and fucking clowns like you clap like trained monkeys
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call me an idiot and post more about literally useless shit “being something” lol k dawg
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I have to say that “ultra shaming everyone for not rhetorically supporting Cory Booker” is a genuinely hilarious bit well done lmao
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What is the nuance and why I’d this significant and if it’s significant how is it good?
Explain why it’s practical
Could they do more? Of course, they could always do more.
Good glad YOU agree, everything else you said is complete coping liberal bullshit
Right I forgot all the things Dems did that have tangibly affected this admin like not voting for Trump’s budget
Oh wait
Legitimate question: With that being past things, where would you like the Dems to start if not by disrupting government procedures?
Legitimate question: what is he actually disrupting?
Procedure, he’s not letting the Senate do anything at all. They have to sit there and do nothing until he stops.
Unlike a filibuster he can’t be voted down, and he can do this as long as he’s able to stand and speak.
he’s not letting the Senate do anything at all
I really need you to think about what you’re saying here: What would the senate be doing if he wasn’t speaking, and will that now not happen as a result of his speaking? Delaying things by a day or three doesn’t mean anything if they still happen.
Maybe if we said “good job do more of this” in a day or three or every day they would do something like this?
What is senate trying to do that he’s preventing?
He’s putting a stop to everything. If he did this during the debate if a vote he’d be doing an actual filibuster and can be voted down by 60 votes, and there are Dems probably would vote him down. By doing so when not doing “anything” he stops everything.
It’s a double edge sword here because if he did it during a debate for legislation people could say “he’s blocking legislation” but by doing so before the Senate does anything he’s stopping everything (including votes) but now there is nothing to point to.
Yeah what did he actually accomplish? You know, beyond a vague “disrupting the Senate”.
What does this accomplish?
“if he was actually doing anything there would be enough votes to stop him” is not the argument you think it is my friend…
So, nothing then. As was stated in the post.
Why are you being so overtly defensive of a group of politicians who will band together to help out mask off fascists while also throwing out this meager theater? 9 dems crossed the isle to make the budget happen.
And as was pointed out elsewhere in this thread,
If the Dems were serious on gridlocking the Senate they should not be providing unanimous consent on things like adjourning and all the other procedural points of order
Replying to the strategies outlined cause I didn’t see them. I agree with them, I think Leeja Miller outlined those specific ones.
To do those though they would need the whole of the democrats to get behind those strategies which while not impossible is very hard right now.
What Corey Booker is doing he doesn’t need the Dems approval he can just do it himself.
First of all, defensive of the party vs defensive of this one action are not the same thing.
The fact that the Dems are generally fascist is why this action makes more sense than a legitimate filibuster which would be voted down by Democrats siding with the Republicans.
I’m being defensive of this specific political action because, at this moment in time, anti fascist actions by liberals is all we’re going to get.
If you think that suddenly the Democrats in power will become legitimate leftists overnight you’re delusional, this singular action occurring I will defend because he’s successfully stalling the procedure in the Senate. I also hope other liberals will throw off their fascist tendencies and start to do the same.
But if you want to just sit there and wish really hard that they all become awakened to the cause tomorrow go ahead and live in your fantasy land.
I don’t think I’m the one living off fantasy, considering I’m not the one saying ‘why are we hating on this action that is accomplishing literally nothing’ and ‘I also hope other liberals will throw off their fascist tendencies and start to do the same’.
Dems have done this for decades, they do juuuuuuuuuust enough theatrical garbage like this to make you think they’re not all complicit, and then they turn around and openly aid the worst things imaginable. Not all of them, but always just enough of them for it to happen. And they’re always the ones co-opting leftist rhetoric while hamstringing them as much as possible, you’ll pardon me for mocking this newest rendition of liberal theater.
“ok, smart guy. what would you want the democrats to do!?”
Man, you can smell the .ee from here. Why don’t you guys just use reddit? I don’t understand.
