• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    i know where tankie comes from, but its just used to further divide the left tbh.

    the difference between the “good” MLs and the “bad” ones is completely unclear. sometimes people say “tankie” to just mean “leftist”

    private businesses, private homeownership, private agriculture, classism, investments into foreign countries, foreign investment into said country,

    investing in other countries is not necessarily capitalism, and while transitioning away from it you are bound to still have private property for a while. demsocs especially, no?

    communism -ie a propertyless, classless society- has never been achieved.

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        you mean marxist-leninist socialism in general, then? yeah, revolution is authoritarian in itself. we leverage our newfound authority, to overthrow the burgeoise authority. we make mistakes in the way, but it generally works much much better. we aim for power to be distributed gradually as we transition to socialism then further into communism.

        tankie” is usually a scare word. you will rarely find any leftists that agree with things not going well. they certainly make it look like most leftists are evul “authoritarians” though.

        i see nothing particularly wrong with ML socialism, and many real actual successful applications in real life. they rivaled and rival the current status quo, and could do more if the capitalist world weren’t so hostile to it.

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            Do you plan on defeating capitalism by asking nicely?

            The revolution won’t be polite, civil, or peaceful. Our enemies won’t just let us win.

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            people willingly serve the empire’s army. they commit some pretty bad atrocities. they are doing it today. now.

            getting rid of imperialism though? i’m scared shitless of fighting any fight at all, and its probably everyone’s last resort.

            but sometimes people have no choice and most are taking it out on underserving peers, sadly. it could be directed in a way that helps us move forward as a society.

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        You’re apparently fine with non-communist authoritarianism then, given that capitalism requires the authoritarian enclosure of the Earth’s common and the forcible restriction of human movement into centrally controlled “nation states”.