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$90 to replay a 8 year old wiiu game. Why would anyone?
As relevant now as it was over a decade ago.
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$10 to replay it, replay meaning you already have the switch version. Or free if you have switch online expansion pack. It’s only going to set you back 90 (instead of 80) if you’ve never owned it and you want it on switch 2
Isn’t that crazy?
I think breath of the wild has always been overpriced lol. And it’s not news that Nintendo rarely ever discounts their older games. But the vast majority of people who are gonna want to play it on switch 2 already own a copy ( I hope).
I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies
This pricing is why Nintendo doesn’t want emulation of its games, while other companies don’t give a shit because they either figured out how to port their shit over to PC or did a multiplatform release to begin with. Steam was the largest reason piracy for games has literally shrunk and why so many from the scene stopped. Make it cheap and easy to get the game, no need for people to pirate it. Nintendo did the exact opposite and has tried and tried to keep it on a closed platform…yet it’s one of the most emulated company out there.
I wonder what this’ll do to the price of used physical copies
Probably nothing. The used prices aren’t necessarily reduced based on the retail price of the new copy, but by the supply vs the demand. If they have hella supply and no demand, they will still be heavily discounted.
Not if you bought it on the WiiU like I did.
Yeah! I forgot it was on the wiiu that actually how I played it too. I later got a switch and played through it again though.
I bought a physical copy of BotW while I was living Japan. My Nintendo account is U.S. My copy of TotK is Digital to boot.
Fuck me, right? lol. What an ass hole I am!
Nintendo fanboys are notorious suckers
There are lots of people with disposable income who don’t have the technical capability to pirate.
I played it six years ago, but with a better experience than switch 2… thank you, cemu
I’ve been wanting to play botw so I tried it on cemu awhile back but couldn’t get it to work. I’ll have to try it again and see if I can figure out what I was doing wrong.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch, once manufacturing ceases.
Nintendo famously never discounts. But this is actually Nintendo’s way of not only never discounting, but increasing the price over time.
Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch
A new one, but pretty soon the market will be flooded with second hand switches
I wouldn’t pay $90 for it, but Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition was definitely fun enough to keep playing.
Nintendo is still justifying my choice to never give another penny to Nintendo.
Same. I loved the Switch. My next gaming console will be the Steam Deck. Fuck Nintendo, it’s over.
You can play Switch games on Steam Deck! At least I do. Some play even better than on Switch.
Unfortunately not Starlink: Battle for Atlas, which was one of the games I was hoping would have improved support implemented before Nintendo took down Yuzu and Ryujinx. There’s the Steam version, but being able to play as Fox makes it feel like the Star Fox game that the Switch is missing.
While I originally did get the game on my Switch, I’d much rather play it with the rest of my games on the Steam Deck.
Steam Deck is a handheld PC not a console. Also it runs a lot of Switch games better than Switch itself.
It’s a console and a PC in one package! Or you feel like the other consoles don’t have an operating system in them?
Well, your phone has OS as well, does it count as a console? Also you can’t run PC software on a console, can you?
Consoles are wannabe PCs.
It’s a handheld PC with a very console-like OS.
I’ve owned every Nintendo console. It used to be that Nintendo = cheaper console, often cheaper base games compared to of the rest of the industry. Wii remained $50 after the other guys had moved to $60 and the Switch stayed at $60 after they moved to $70 (aside from their dirty little trick of TotK). Now their console is almost as expensive as a PS5 and they’re leapfrogging even the $70 standard to price their top-tier games at $80? Sheer greed and hubris. Maybe there are enough rabid Nintendo fans to support their pricing, but I won’t be one of them.
that’s gunna be a lot of sad kids on Christmas when the great depression 2 has settled in
Oof.
better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support
Interestingly you can get all that for free now. Yarr
Kinda expected when you pull an CEO from EA
Yeah, you can really see the AAA cooperate enshitification taking hold.
Wow, I had actually never heard that Doug Bowser was formerly at EA. Ooof
I get that it’s more fun to point out his name, I’m just surprised I hadn’t seen the comment made before.
Even EA isn’t this greedy.
Hell EA is doing good now in some ways like open sourcing the command and conquer games. Maybe they got rid of their Shit executives to Ubisoft and Nintendo.
Yeah, they’ve been doing good work funding smaller teams too. Games like it takes two and split fiction are great lower budget experimental games.
I recently broke a decade plus boycott of EA products to purchase Split Fiction for full price. My friend asked me to play It Takes Two with him for free through friend pass and I was so impressed by it that I wanted to support the devs. Besides, the whole point of the boycott was to “vote with my wallet” and I want them to know that I want more games with that kind of quality made by teams that are (seemingly) happy to be doing what they do.
If they owned Mario and Zelda, you can bet your britches they would be.
I mean, madden and the sims are at least as big of cash cows.
Existing owners can upgrade to the Switch 2 version for $10, gaining better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support.
I didn’t realize they had this option. As far as legal routes go, that’s not terrible (assuming there’s no weird downside, like no longer being able to play the original on the switch 1). Free would be better, of course, but $10 certainly beats paying $90 just to play the improved version on switch 2.
The upgrade pack is also free for Expansion Pack tier switch online subscribers from what I’ve heard at least for botw/totk. So if youre already on one of those for N64/GBA/Genesis/GameCube then it’s no extra cost
It’s basically the PS4 to PS5 $10 upgrade thing. The difference is that Nintendo isn’t dropping the price of their 8 year old game, unlike what the rest of the industry does. So it’s $60 BotW + $20 DLC + $10 Switch 2 upgrade = $90. Absolutely ridiculous.
Honestly… Piss off with that Nintendo.
One of the issues I have with the new open-world style Zelda games is that they don’t have replay value. After finishing each once (which takes a lot of time), I can’t actually imagine wanting to go back and play them again. So yeah, Nintendo can charge what they want and it isn’t very appealing regardless. Increased resolution isn’t going to change the experience.
Increased resolution probably wouldn’t make a difference, but keeping the framerate at a steady 30 (or even better 60) would make a noticeable difference. At least it did when I played it on PC
I replay OoT and MM at least once a year. I can see myself replaying these new Zelda games at some point and enjoying them, but I won’t likely pay $90 for the privilege.
Interestingly I’d say the complete opposite: BotW was my fave and I feel I could replay it in quite a different style (e.g. trying to beat it without any dungeons, trying to 100% it), whereas the others are all very linear and my only option is to play it again in the same way.
(Obviously I don’t need to pay any additional money to do either though!)
I’m not as against this as everyone else. If you want a AAA game without microtransactions, in-game advertising, and all the other bullshit you get nowadays, you’re gonna have to expect the company will want to make that money up in other places. Games have been like £50/$60 since the N64 days and we’ve been lucky that the prices haven’t risen with inflation.
This is a fucking 8 year old game. Fuck all the way off with this shit.
There are a lot of AAA titles without all that bullshit and none of them costs that kind of money, on any platform.
Yeah but just for a rerelease with some new paint?
Games were $60 in SNES days, I know I paid around that for Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger
Chrono Trigger MSRP was $70 iirc and some titles were even $80
How much were they 8 years later?
Phantasy Star IV on the Genesis retailed for $99 in the US in 1995. That’s like a game being $200 now. I think Star Fox 64 was $80, but it came with a rumble pak at least.
Han has died.
As someone that argued this the other day, volume and production costs are waaaaaay different than then. This is a false equivalence.
Everyone also always forgets that they save money on distribution massively. And that the amount of games sold has increased significantly.
It’s not as simple as dollars had more value, games should cost more.
And subscriptions, MTX…game companies are making bank and would still make more than enough if games were $50.
$90 for an 8 year old game, lmao you are a clown. Some of you people that play on consoles are losing your fucking minds, especially on prices and costs on things.
Throwing away so much money on consoles and accessories, online subs, games, you could literally just build a PC for cheaper
The first and only console I bought was the original Wii. Games were expensive so I did not have many. I managed to install a few emulators and use it for older console emulation.
After some years they started pulling the plug on the online services. That’s when I decided I would never buy another console again. I will not feed any more walled gardens. I have more games than I can play on my PC, a lot of them are DRM free.
Steamdeck already has this experience for free 🙈
They’d make a lot more money if they priced it at the 20 - 40 range
They really wouldn’t. They would have to triple or quadruple sales to take that sort of a hit. As it stands it’s one of the best selling games of all time already, basically everyone interested in it already owns it.
Financially, they made the right decision. As annoying as it is from the consumer side.
That assumes people actually buy it though. Everyone already has this game, so I would expect most of the sales to come from the upgrade pack and not the $90 switch 2 edition. Nintendo usually makes bank by selling old games at full price with a generational console gap.
Tons of the full price successful “remasters” on Switch were Wii games which people no longer used, and Wii U games which no one originally bought.
On the other hand, the last time I didn’t see Nintendo make bank on literally zero effort was never, so I’m not that hopeful that people won’t just shill out for this scam too.
If I were to buy a switch 2, I might consider a rebuy at 20-40, but I’ve already beaten it and I ain’t pain 90$ lmao
I guess that would be the case if you bought it, beat it and sold it, but most people in that scenario would already own it and then they would just buy the upgrade pack. This $90 option is only for people who don’t own the game in any form yet.
The idea that any significant contingent of people would not own it in any form, then suddenly want to play it on Switch 2 but would balk at the asking price seems unlikely, certainly not enough to cut the price in half.
If they wanted a cheaper option they could always just buy a used Switch copy and then just buy the upgrade pack. I would prefer cheaper Nintendo games too but the reality is this won’t cost them that many sales.
i’m interested in it. i don’t own it.
Title is a bit misleading
There are a few scenarios here.
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You own the game on switch and already have the dlc so pay nothing unless you want to pay $10 or have the switch online subscription for the switch 2 edition if you want the enhancements. For a total of $0-10 depending on your choice
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You own the game but dont have the dlc so pay $20 for that and then $10 for the switch 2 version unless you have the subscription for a total of $20-30 depending on your choice.
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You dont own the game so you buy the switch 2 version for $70 and the dlc for $20 for a total of $90.
This is not the same as the $90 game lie thats being told, but it is painted that way. To get clicks.
Paying $70 for a game and then paying more for an expansion is nothing even close to new. For example, Destiny 2 is free but if you want the DLC its gonna cost you between $150 and $270 depending on when you buy it as there are sometimes deals on.
Breath of the Wild is 8 years old at this point. Asking $70 for that is pretty egregious in my opinion. Maybe for TotK that’d be more acceptable but for BotW I think it’s a very steep price. Especially given that it’s common that rereleases usually include dlcs by default.
I’d expected $60 for the full package, not $90, given that the amount of development work was likely pretty low (the game was finished years ago after all). So 50% higher than expected.
The SM64+Sunshine+Galaxy bundle game was $30, for comparison. That’s three full games that they needed to put in effort for to run on the Switch.
Absolutely fair. An 8 year old game should not cost $90 all in.
I dont dispute that. I just think the article is misleading as there is a lot of talk about $90 switch 2 games, which turned out not to be true, and it creates anger that is misplaced. Even if the reality isn’t far from that lie.
I do, however, think it’s an interesting thought experiment to come at it from another angle.
Imagine the article was “8 year old AAA game and DLC at a huge discount” and the article said things like:
- breath of the wild was ahead of its time on release
- the graphics still look great thanks to the cell shading and art style
- unique gameplay elements and a modern feeling combat system
- vast open world with expansive storyline
- on par with modern games
- currently only $50 on this deal, a bargain considering everything you get for that price
From this point of view i think you would agree that anyone would argue its worth more than $50 and that its a great deal despite being 8 years old.
Nintendo games should definitely come down in price over time, but the point is its just so easy to spin something however you want if you use the right words.
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And, not that anyone cares, I vow never to buy another game from them- at least at that price.
Retaliatory non consumption.
After the Wii, I sword that I was never going to buy another console just to play Zelda. I eventually got a Switch to play Breath of the Wild and basically nothing else (I owned a total of 4 Switch games). When they sued the shit out of the Yuzu people, I decided it was time to finally live up to the promise I had made. I gave the Switch, which I hadn’t touched in years, to a friend to use as a gift for his kids and committed to never giving Nintendo another penny.
I’ll reevaluate that stance if they ever make significant changes to their practices.
My ol’ good Switch 1 will keep rocking my TV set until it breaks apart. I never asked for a Switch 2 anyway.
Same, I need to repair the fan on mine asap though. The ifixit parts don’t look too bad but it does not look like a fun operation haha.
