• barrbaric [he/him]
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    441 year ago

    Damn if he’s so smart why’d he join the losing side, and then lose?

    Lee and every member of the southern aristocracy should have been executed.

  • @CluelessLemmyng@lemmy.sdf.org
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    361 year ago

    General Grant was not an alcoholic. He drank missing his wife. He never drank while in battle. That’s one of many slanders of the Lost Cause that victimizes the South as well as proposes the South to be superior in many aspects.

    Grant was by far the better general. While Lee fought a mostly defensive Virginia campaign, Grant was out completing the North’s military objectives in aggressive, modern strategies. His rally and subsequent victory at Shiloh, despite his mistakes. His Vicksburg Campaign that is still studied to this day. Grant’s ability to fight the war that Lee could not win when Grant finally took over the army of the Potomac and hounded Lee, when previous generals would turn, until he had nothing but a ragged army.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      311 year ago

      He never drank while in battle

      damn fr? that sucks, it’d be fucking hilarious if he’d whupped the confederates like he did while drunk

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    351 year ago

    I mean, if Ulysses S. Grant had a problem, it was that he had no clue how to run a country, but that’s every single president

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      181 year ago

      He sucked at administering the state but his political priorities were some of the best of any US president

  • @xantoxis
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    331 year ago

    “unimpeachable character” idk the slaves he was fighting to keep probably had a different take on his character

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    I remember Matt Christman on radio war nerd talking about how all the westpoint grads in the American Civil War were hobbled by their education and were unable to think outside the box strategically, and how guys like Willlich (the German Communist general) was able to shake up the war by bringing over different tactics. He might have been overstating his case a little, but still. It is interesting when people make appeals to shit like “graduated with good marks at the nepotism factory”

  • VHS [he/him]
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    281 year ago

    literally who cares about graduating top of the class? pure cope. grant did way the hell better where it actually counts

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    211 year ago

    i say with absolute certainty the commander and president of the Union could’ve beaten the shit outta their confederate counterpart barehands

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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    211 year ago

    confederate defenders stop pretending “defending his home state” is a meaningful distinction from “defending the institution of slavery”

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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      221 year ago

      Yeah and its mostly bullshit. I think part of why some of the northern generals appear worse is because many of them were ideologically against following up victories and capturing the confederate capital. MacClellan the first Commander of the Army of the Potomac was very against it and if I’m remembering correctly ran for election against Lincoln because of their disagreements over the war. But, there were also these supposedly “better” Southern generals who just charged soldiers into meetgrinders overcamd over for no reason, so it doesn’t hold up anyway