A clean kitchen is a triumph of the modern era. Show this to a caveman or a renaissance era scholar and claim two middle-age adults with at least one child and a dog accomplished it in less than an hour. They will praise it as a miracle.
Im sure the caveman would be impressed, probably more by the knives than any organizational aspect, but i feel like scholars in the renaissance had plenty of experience this keeping things organized. This picture of an alchemy workshop is like organizational goals for me. Its full but not cluttered and it looks cozy as fuck.
Its full but not cluttered and it looks cozy as fuck.
I guess we’re operating on different definitions of “cluttered”. Although, I’ll happily cede it looks cozy, I would be afraid to swing my elbows without knocking over something extremely rare and expensive.
If space was at a premium, sure, but I’d hate to have this in our kitchen.
Unless that window has a view of a brick wall I agree. Also butcher block with a drying rack dripping on it isn’t gonna last long.
Um but wtf is all the water draining to? The work surfaces?
Also imagine knocking this over. Fml.
Most of the stuff that needs draining should flow mostly into the sink, but I do agree it looks like one could get where you don’t want.
As for knocking it over, the “feet” look relatively sturdy, so ideally that would be difficult to do.
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Those knives would get absolutely backsplashed by bacteria.
They’d also be very difficult to place and remove.
Some people will literally do anything to avoid using/purchasing a dishwasher. I don’t get it. Hand washing is unsanitary, time-consuming, and wastes water. Just fork over the $600 and get one already. It’ll change your life for the better.
Edit: Why are you booing me? I’m right! Are you seriously going to call Alec from Technology Connections a liar? Here’s your proof right here: https://youtu.be/Ll6-eGDpimU#t=36m31s
Just fork over the $600
I prefer paying my rent over kitchen appliances
If you’re paying rent, it is expected that a dishwasher is included in the cost of your rent. If it’s not, you need to find a place that provides basic appliances. It is the landlord’s responsibility to provide a dishwasher, not yours.
If you’re paying rent, you’d think the unit would just come with the kitchen basics.
Do you have a refrigerator, at least? A stove? Or is your landlord making you use a shared root cellar and chimney fire?
You can get them for way less though (esp. used).
You need to check your available space privilege.
I have both. I’m not putting my plastic salad spinner or German chef knives or old plastic food storage containers or blender jar or my pots and pans and etc. in the dishwasher. Restaurants have human dishwashers for valid reasons.
How is it unsanitary?
Because in order to sanitize, the water temperature needs to be above 60°C/140°F. It is impossible to get the water that hot when hand washing. You would burn yourself immediately.
Because the machine is generally more reliable at doing it in a more sanitary way. People often cut corners when doing it manually.
Some of us rent. I want a dishwasher, I can’t have a dishwasher here
Where are you living that the unit doesn’t come with a dishwasher? I’ve been all over Houston, on the rich side and the poor side, and I’ve never seen a unit that doesn’t at least have one of those bargain basement whirlpools.
In the greater Seattle area it’s about 50/50 whether a rental will have a dishwasher.
That’s crazy, especially considering rental rates.
It doesn’t have to waste more water. There are ways to do the dishes where you only use water to rinse off the already washed plates. That is in fact less water than with a dishwasher. Maybe you are thinking of washing the dished with the water constantly on.
This old wives’ tale objectively untrue and has already been debunked. It is impossible use less water than a dishwasher, no matter how you wash the dishes. Like I said, Technology Connections already tested this.
There is nothing more frustrating than being told I’m wrong when I know for a fact that I’m right, and even have proof. Hive mind mentality drives me crazy sometimes.
Just take a s deep breath. You’re going to survive this
Ok, and how are you fitting it in your kitchen when all cabinets are overflowing and you do not feel like removing your oven.
I put it in the space for the dishwasher. If you do not have such a space in your kitchen, there are standalone units, even countertop variants. You could remove a cabinet if you can afford to lose the space.
even countertop variants
Good thing countertops have no use in a kitchen!
Many people rent. You can’t just remove a cabinet in that case. Can’t decide how big the kitchen is either. I’m sorry, but your comments come off as very privilaged and honestly ignorant.
The counter top ones take up a lot of space, and you cannot use your kitchen sink while it is running because it connects to your kitchen faucet. Which also means you need to have the correct kind of faucet for the attachment to fit. Also, dishwashers use a lot of power. There are hidden costs at play here, and with the price of power only going up, why wouldn’t I do dishes the cheap way? Not to mention haveing to buy dishwasher tablets and all the waste products created by the single use packaging.
So you wheel it around?
I prefer the Dutch cabinet (I think that’s what they’re called) is what I want. It’s basically that except it’s in a cabinet.
I just have a dishwasher so this would be a bit overkill.
So, the art is a bit deceiving. We have a few things that can’t go in the dishwasher - the espresso pot which would be ruined in the machine, a few bigger pots and serving bowls that don’t fit neatly, some of my son’s high chair components that get gunked between meals, our nice set of enameled chopsticks that need to be hand-washed - and this works great to keep them out of the sink while we’re doing the rest of the kitchen.
But I agree, there’s no reason 90% of the image art stuff can’t just go in the dishwasher normally.
I have one of these and it’s pretty cool. The knife holder thing sucks ass though, idk who thought that was a good idea.
Looks neat and space efficient, but I have questions about why someone keeps fruit next to the dishes.
Don’t worry, they’re plastic.
Actually this is an abomination and I hate it
I would be bothered by having low clearance above the sink to do dishes, even if it was practically enough room.
A side rack with drainage into the sink is ideal for handwashing dishes, anything more or less complicated than that is going to be endless headaches. This thing looks unstable as fuck.
Imagine pumping soap from the dispenser while the top rack has several plates and pots and pans (and fruit??) on it.
I have never needed a drying rack in my life. On the very rare occasion I can’t just dry something and put it away, I leave it sitting on a towel to dry. When I am done I wash the towel and the counter again becomes empty. I am not kidding when I say I am an empty counter extremist.
We just use the right side of the sink for drying. It has a little plastic grate insert to elevate the dishes and dirty dishes go into the left side, clean into the right, and then theyre dry by the next time you need to do dishes so they get put away. Only time its somewhat of an inconvenience is when i want to fill the brita pitcher and theres no bottom of the sink to rest it on so i have to hold it or place it on the counter and hold the sink hose over it.
I hate it too. My SO bought one and its not a great product. It’s hard to wash anything larger than a small pan, it leaks water everywhere, and makes cleaning the please difficult. It also looks horrible in our apartment kitchen.
Controversial! I admire your gumption
And then you get to a point where you look at that and think “clever but I’m sure it’s fucked up in some way that isn’t immediately obvious.”
I can’t figure out how you’d actually get a knife in those slots with the ledge above it.
I have this drying rack, and… I LOVE it!
But the knife holder is the biggest problem. All the bits are modular so you can set it up with the knife holder not having something right above it, but my favorite knife is too long to sit in the knife holder without stabbing the countertop. I solved the problem by getting one of those magnetic knife holders and mounting it to the side of the rack.
Also, when people who come over to my place for dinner or hanging out, about half of them make a comment about how awesome the drying rack is.
(I’m 47 and I got this rack about 5 years ago)
I considered buying one of these several years ago, but I measured everything out and… I don’t have the clearance for it. Woe is me.
Maybe my next kitchen.
Link?
Currently unavailable on amazon, but this is where I bought it:
The immediately obvious way is that you don’t need a fucking scaffolding around your sink for any of this. Put the knives on magnets like a normal person. Dry your dishes and put them away like an adult, you aren’t in college anymore, have some fucking dignity. Put the fruit literally anywhere else. That leaves the soap, which can just sit on the fucking counter. It’s not going to damage anything in an earthquake. It doesn’t need to be caged.
Counters should be flat, clean and empty of single purpose appliances or extraneous errata. This is the recipe for positive mental health.
All this crap in my way and too much clutter. Yuck. Also, anything over a sink is likely to get splashed. This is creating more cleaning work, and for what?
And who dries dishes like this? Are they not already clean and dry out of the dishwasher? Hand washing is very wasteful and time consuming.
Not everyone owns a dishwasher.
Not everything fits our should go in a dishwasher either.
Lots of folks saying “why don’t you just dry and put your dishes away?” but I have this exact model and use it mainly for storage. Zero cabinet space in my tiny kitchen. With this I can actually own enough plates and bowls to feed guests!
yeah I own one cause even though I have a dishwasher there’s some stuff that’s hand wash only and you can use it for handy storage too like yours
Just wait until you discover the dishwasher.
I wanted to put a rack for those dishwasher trays into a regular cupboard, so that we could have basically a real dishwasher for dirty stuff, and a cupboard for clean stuff so that we never have to empty it.
My husband Veto’d it, because “that’s the epitome of laziness”. Which I think is exactly the point, but whatever. It’s his job to empty the dishwasher now, which solves the problem too.
Do you mean like this?
https://images.app.goo.gl/1iUCRCcFd7XAUxBc6
It’s basically in every kitchen in Finland, and has spread somewhat to the other Nordic countries, but is apparently rare elsewhere.
No, I mean those dishwasher drawers you have in there? You should be able to take those and just slide them into a regular cupboard. You out empty ones in the dishwasher, and over time you fill those when you use the dishes.
This idea is too good to not exist
that is basically the idea with commercial dishwasher racks and well basically all commercial kitchen containers/trays follow the same standard size meaning everything slots perfectly in every cabinet, fridge, counter etc. sad that only dishwashers typically might not follow the GN standard but have their own standard for racks
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doesn’t the cupboard get moldy if you keep putting wet dishes inside?
Its hollow from the bottom, the wooden part at the bottom is just in the front so water drips to the sink area under and has good ventilation.
Ooh that some clever design! I know some people who just put dishes in regular cupboards before they are fully dry and it always feels like a moldy disaster waiting to happen.
Yup, my father in law insists on putting pots and pans back in the cupboard right after a quick/cursory toweling and I’ve had to clean out his cupboards more than once. Fortunately the wood is mostly mold resistant, but I’ve had to clean all of the contents of those cupboards more than once now.
There was a guy on reddit who had two dishwashers for this reason.
I feel like it would be more difficult to manage a system to figure out which one is dirty, rather than just emptying it.
We have that at work and the dirty one just has a red fridge magnet on it and so far no one has ever messed up
That you know of…
Oh believe me the person who does the kitchen would have raised hell if that had happened, they had plenty of meltdown over other things in the past (rightfully so), so I’m quite sure it’s a good system.
I feel like it would be more difficult to manage a system to figure out which one is dirty, rather than just emptying it.
Just get ones that have a metal door, and magnetic sign that says dirty or clean.
More like the epitome of efficiency.
Exactly!
You are an absolute genius. If I was in a house I would build this 100% (I build all kinds of random things).
Also, tell your husband to do the dishes if it’s so easy.Reading hard.
I will never use a dishwasher. Every time I have to drink water from a glass that gas gone through a dishwasher I find the smell disgusting. And people with dishwashers get used to the smell, and stop feeling it.
This can be water. Detergent. Dirty dishwasher. Or you.
Or any combination of those.
What you are writing is highly abmormal.
It’s a good idea to clean your dishwasher out every once in a while. I do mine quarterly. They will get gross otherwise. There’s a filter in the bottom that needs to be thoroughly cleaned out, and the bit it fits into. Clean the gasket all the way around, and then run a cycle with a sanitizer product if you feel like it.
To address the replies: There is no problem with my dishwasher because I do not have one. I am saying when I go to houses (plural, many) that have dishwashers I hate drinking from their glasses, because they all smell and taste gross. That’s just my experience. Maybe everyone in my circle is using their dishwasher wrong.
The dishwasher is actually better than what most people think, but a lot of them don’t know that they’re using it wrong.
Someone created a post a few days ago asking what the differences are between Reddit and lemmy. Is an obsession with Technology Connections it, or did I just miss that boat on reddit?
Well, coincidentally, the very first Technology Connections video I watched was an hour-long one about dishwashers (yes, lol). And it was actually shared to me through Discord.
The directors cut version of this video changed how I run my dishwasher for many many years now.
Get it hot before you start and add a little detergent to the tub for pre-wash cycle is a game changer.
Lol
Did you forget to use detergent?
If your glassware smells, something’s wrong, as detergent uses water softening agents, enzymes, and rinse agents. Dishwashers do need to be regularly cleaned, and I’ve never met anyone who does so.
There’s also the question of the dry cycle, which is crucial if you live in a high humidity environment. Otherwise things will get musty, like leaving clothes in a washing machine.
Restaurants use dishwashers (though generally not the same type as home units, but small shops have similar commercial units with fast cycles) - have you experienced this there?
Edit: For some reason the “default” way to store glassware in cupboards is upside down. I’ve always found this causes things to smell musty with the trapped air. Even worse in cabinets with no covering on the wood - that’s just nasty. Or with old shelf paper that never gets cleaned, so there’s all sorts of grubbiness making smells.
Even in dry climates I’ve found upside down causes funk.
Try non scented detergent?
I agree. I can also smell and taste rot and staleness before other people.
What we get from this, other people simply don’t pick up. Fun percentile eh?
Eveey dish I have used in the last 40 years I could tell if it had been in a dishwasher recently. Very unique odor. Doesn’t matter who’s dishwasher.
I hand wash my dishes.
… turn the glasses upsidedown when putting them into a dishwasher.
(Also all restaurants use dishwashers, albeit they are of the more speedy sort. The funny smell is just the poor lad washing the dishes.)
I used to feel like there was an aftertaste. I switched to using a vinegar dilution in the “rinse aid” slot and that’s done the trick.
Need room for one of those. We cannot have a dishwasher.
Looks terrible. I can’t use the sink without worrying about splashing the clean dishes. Disgusting. And they’re practically just hanging in my way.
How would you possibly splash dishes so high above the sink?
Splashed water can fly surprisingly far. Remember those studies about toilets and toothbrushes?
I’m old, and I actually hate this…
How awkward it must be to try to remove the knives. And why is the fruit in the top right? The cutting boards are going to leak all over the counter after you wash them.
Also, I have a dishwasher… So this is just a great way to block the window in front of most sinks for no good reason.
You’re the only person who mentioned the window.
An efficient way to drain dishware is great, but looking out the window when you’re in the kitchen brings much joy.
And a window can be an emergency fire escape.
