Every time I see westerns post some brainworms shit the usual response is “well propaganda is a hell of a drug”.

But if western propaganda is really that effective, how the fuck did we get here? I’d think if it was really this good at melting people’s brain’s it’d be effective enough to prevent communities like this from even existing. So like are we special or something?

Also raises the question, if we’re able to get over this BS, wtf is everyone else’s excuse for falling hook-line-and-sinker for it?

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    It’s different for different people. For me it was a combination of working a shit job for shit pay and the lies about the Iraq War.

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      For me it was a combination of working a shit job for shit pay and the lies about the Iraq War.

      I know tons of people like that but still fall for every clickbait story about the DPRK. I knew one who was an AnCap for christsake.

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        That was just the start of my radicalization. I would still be a listless liberal if I had never stumbled into /r/COMPLETEANARCHY, which led me to /r/cth.

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            No, it’s because I managed to get a proper political education. If you want more communists, go out there and teach people about communism. Find out what’s wrong in their lives and show them how it’s capitalism’s fault.

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              Find out what’s wrong in their lives and show them how it’s capitalism’s fault.

              So I get what you’re saying and agree, but a problem I have is I have a hard time convincing them that capitalism is also OTHER PEOPLE’s problem. They totally get why it’s their problem, and so they embrace so populist succdem shit, and want themselves and other people in close proximity to them to get better goodies from their own government, but they can’t seem to extrapolate things to the global scale. So you end up with people who are bolsheviks at home but support NATO abroad.

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            Some people will disagree with me here, but I think being a western leftist, especially an American leftist, is more or less random. The material conditions for an influential leftist organization do not yet exist. People joke about treats, but getting the average American on board with communism is a tough sell while they still have decent quality of life.

            My personal belief is that either climate change will upset material conditions enough for the political setting to change, or that America will slowly slide into irrelevance while clinging to neoliberalism.