Every time I see westerns post some brainworms shit the usual response is “well propaganda is a hell of a drug”.

But if western propaganda is really that effective, how the fuck did we get here? I’d think if it was really this good at melting people’s brain’s it’d be effective enough to prevent communities like this from even existing. So like are we special or something?

Also raises the question, if we’re able to get over this BS, wtf is everyone else’s excuse for falling hook-line-and-sinker for it?

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      Thank you, that means a lot. I’m in a much better place now, but my partner and I both agree that every part of our clawback into stability and moderate prosperity was predicated on random chance after random chance, all stacked on top of the fact that we’re white. We didn’t finally get jobs and start sneering downward like a lot of boomers did, because we were so comically precarious and got absolutely unbelievably lucky. And one of the critical steps turned out to be working under racist pieces of shit who would have discriminated against us. (We got out of there asap and spent years helping a ton of other people escape too lmao, even people we didn’t like, just to hurt that company as much as possible)

      Like I finally got my first job because my partner happened upon a fucking reddit comment from someone looking for an employee. That guy very nearly died the prior year and wouldn’t have been around to hire me. Then I got a temp job because someone was on leave, which meant I barely didn’t get evicted. Then for my next job, they were about to hire some guy way more qualified than me, but he said something towards the end of the interview about it being a good stepping stone, so they took offense and hired me instead. Just that one offhand comment from some guy I will never meet was literally the only way I got over the poverty line and into the “middle class”. Even if I was a total idiot I would probably still understand this because of the bizarre sequence of my life. By pure accident I threaded the needle through a 1-2% chance at doing fine, and I see everybody who stayed completely fucked over as equally or more deserving than me

      If I had just like, been born 20 years earlier and walked into a good job at 18 or 22 with no economic disasters happening, I could have easily thought it was just a natural result of being smart and moral, or something. That seems like the default position that got broken apart for a lot of people in 2008 and 2020-2023

      Honestly its fucked up that I know I’m unbelievably lucky to be in a similar spot to my parents, although they had pensions and shit (oof), when our childhood conceptions of “unbelievably lucky” was some kind of fucking celebrity status

      And really it’s been like 15 years since I could see my parent and siblings regularly and that probably won’t ever fully resolve, luckily I have inlaws now

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        That sounds as if you are reflected and aware how chance and structures play a role in the proletarians individual employment success. That is good, too.

        If I had just like, been born 20 years earlier and walked into a good job at 18 or 22 with no economic disasters happening, I could have easily thought it was just a natural result of being smart and moral, or something. That seems like the default position that got broken apart for a lot of people in 2008 and 2020-2023

        Word.

        and I see everybody who stayed completely fucked over as equally deserving than me

        Also true. Both can be true, that stuff was hard, that you had to endure and do a lot and still not being totally in control of what will happen.

        Your story is a good one, feel free to share how it is. Shared plight is one of the strong motivators of solidarity and socialism in my opinion.