Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think.
If you want you can read some of my comments here and watch these morons make fallacious argument after falacious argument, put words in my mouth, and project some person who makes similarly bad takes which exists inside their head onto me: https://lemmy.today/comment/17304484
Edit: there’s also this thread: https://lemmy.today/post/32415724/17304693
No guys, Hexbear TOTALLY doesn’t brigade threads, whaaaaat?
I’m shocked that Redditorsstill haven’t learnt how Federation works.
Well not that shocked
It’s so funny how defensive and upset ml users are here
Do you people have a template for these posts or something? They’re always the same nonsense
Do you mean you hear an echo in this chamber?
If you blocked them then how are you replying to all their comments here?
-Complains about “echo chambers”
-Blocks comm because of diverging views
No I blocked it because it’s an echo chamber. Are you able to read? Did you see what I said in this post?
I mean you’re welcome to post a competing view and argue it competently from an intelligent well reasoned position grounded in fact… you haven’t done that though, and you’re complaining that people who have done that who are refuting your hot air are an “echo chamber”.
It’s like going onto a maths forum and saying 0.99999…≠1 with zero substance to your claims only vibes and then having multiple people show proofs in various different ways to show you that infact 0.999999…=1 and you blocking the maths forum and calling it an echo chamber.
Sounds like you want it to be an echo chamber.
When everyone agrees on a fact its cause its a fact
Someone asked you how China doesn’t have freedom of speech, which is what you claimed and are responsible for proving. You responded asking “have you been living under a rock?” This is appealing to “common knowledge” as if it is just widely known and no evidence is required. In a different comment you said all your comments were your own thoughts and not based on US propaganda. Unless you have lived in China and had your freedom of speech violated, you are obviously just repeating racist anti-China propaganda that has no evidence. If there was evidence you would provide it but since you can’t provide what doesn’t exist all you can rely on is the false notion that
This is just one direct example debunking your rhetoric and showing it is illogical, but there are more examples in the thread. Instead of trying to form a perspective based on facts or data you are just making racist claims about over a billion people and then refusing to consider that you actually don’t know what you’re talking about even though it is very obvious to anyone who has spent even a little time looking into this topic
Someone asked you how China doesn’t have freedom of speech,
That was me lol. Really wish they would have answered this. I was 99% sure it was going to be the debunked claim the winnie the pooh is banned in China
Come back baby we didn’t mean it
Im sorry for what i said when I was dunking
“My Own Worst Enemy” by Lit starts playing
Can we forget about the things I said in my dunk?
I didn’t mean to go post that
Can’t remember what you said or what emoji
I used on, I used on my post
“I wasn’t immediately validated when giving my opinion on concepts I have a narrow understanding of such as authoritarianism and technofeudalism, and have therefore decided to remove myself from the entire community to prove I’m right.”
Hexbear would like you to read a book.
I asked you to define technofeudalism and you just started making things up based on the words “techno” and “feudalism”. Surely it is us that are afraid of critical thinking and having an echo chamber, person that ran away and hid from the replies.
Technofeudalism is when people who like dancing have a tendency to have beef with other people dancing.
I am very smart
It’s when the dancing people have to give half of their dancing sweats to the DJ who allows them to use his dancefloor.
Didn’t know what feudalism was either.
Fraudalism
thank you for posting your massive, massive L’s for us all to point and laugh at 🙏
Too bad you can’t see all the hexbears roasting you in the comments
How so
I’m not sure exactly what you’re asking, but I assumed since you said you blocked the instance and you weren’t responding to their comments on this post that you couldn’t see them. However, coming back to this thread I see a response from you so I’m not sure what’s going on
Blocking an instance doesn’t block the users of that instance. Just the communities. So users posting from an account on a blocked instance to a community on a non blocked instance will still show up.
I have hexbear and ML blocked. I still see all you assholes in here, brigading this shit.
Brigading AKA sorting by all/active lol…you’re not on Reddit anymore
“Brigading” lol cry about it
It was ambiguous what comments you were referring to. (This post or the comments in the other one) I get it now.
I don’t really want to hear from them. Their roasts are just bad arguments and bullying.
Yup, pretty much. Tankies are a scourge and the world would have been better without them in it.
The world would have been better if the Nazis won WWII? If the Tsar had remained a brutal dictator with life expectancies and literacy rates both in the low 30s? Mask-off moment for you, holy shit.
Nice strawman dipshit.
Saying the world would have been better off without communists directly states that the ones who killed 90% of the Nazis in World War II and took Berlin should’ve never existed, the Tsar never overthrown, Cuba to remain a fascist slaver colony under Batista, China to remain under the feudal Kuomintang dictatorship, Vietnam to remain a colony of France, South Africa to remain an Apartheid regime, etc.
It isn’t a strawman, it’s the direct consequences of what you said.
Cope lol
Their arguments are all better than any you’ve ever produced, the bullying is warranted
I don’t consider Hexbear to be an “echo chamber.” A true echo chamber, isolating oneself from views that go against someone’s current viewpoints, is only possible if your viewpoint aligns with the dominant views of the society you live in. Communism in the english-speaking internet and world is fringe. Nobody on Hexbear can truly avoid engaging with liberalism as a daily requirement for their existence, everyone has to exist in the outside world and touch grass at some point, be it for work, errands, engaging with friends, family, etc.
What is possible to create an echo chamber around, is blocking off leftist viewpoints. Blocking Hexbear just reduces the chances of yourself running into views that challenge your existing viewpoints. The reason why Hexbear bans liberalism and anti-communist viewpoints is because you can find them anywhere on the English-speaking internet, it gets pushed heavily by mainstream media and permeates discussions even about social reforms like healthcare. Hexbear making a space safe to engage with other communists who just want to hang out doesn’t actually close off viewpoints.
Looking into your comments you linked, you threw around words like “authoritarianism” and “technofeudalism,” without really describing or understanding each. It comes across as you trying to figure out a way to describe a Socialist system that restricts the rights of capital owners in a negative way, without trying to understand why the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their system and believe it to be generally on the right track. I recommend glancing through this Socialism with Chinese Characteristics Study Guide to see how and why the Chinese system works, and why one would support it.
All in all, I think blocking Hexbear if you don’t like echo chambers is actually counter-productive, as you cut yourself off of a large portion of the Leftist userbase on Lemmy, thus restricting what you see to a more narrow subset of generally “progressive liberalism.”
" A true echo chamber, isolating oneself from views that go against someone’s current viewpoints, is only possible if your viewpoint aligns with the dominant views of the society you live in.
Hexbear blocked carnivore@lemm.ee for going against their viewpoints.
It is a true echo chamber. But if your general point is it’s okay to be an echo chamber, because it’s impossible to live your life without being exposed to other ideas… Fine, but that doesn’t change the fact they are an echo chamber as a platform
They also ban fascists, liberals, etc. Hexbear is pro-animal liberation, they don’t want to see glorification of mass consumption of meat all the time. This is a silly point, you can’t actually go your life without seeing meat being eaten, but that doesn’t mean you have to see it everywhere you go. Same with porn, porn is censored, does that make it an echo chamber?
I think you ignored my points, why does Hexbear count as a “true echo chamber?” What does that even entail?
As you conceded it’s a echo chamber but it doesn’t isolate people from the realities of their daily lives.
I wouldn’t really call that an echo chamber, then. An echo-chamber is where you are only exposed to one side of viewpoints, that’s largely impossible for Hexbear users but is entirely possible for, say, Lemmy.world users. The alternative is to let liberals, fascists, etc roam freely, harassing users and creating an unsafe space for marginalized comrades that use Hexbear precisely to avoid such situations for a tiny portion of their lives.
in the west, it’s very hard to get honest/accurate analysis of the chinese system. i really recommend you stop parroting bullshit that you’ve heard and read some marxist/anarchist books on the chinese system post-2004.
(the reason 2004 is chosen is because there was a massive paradigm shift in the country at that time. any book that’s worth reading will cover it)
Alright. This is the response I was wanting. Educate me :)
What would you like to know? I csn recommend books. You will have to read them tho. I have been totally making fun of you cause you deserve it, but that doesn’t mean im not willing to help you out if you legit wanna learn, im a jerk, not a monster.
Read
Socialism With Chinese Characteristics by Roland Boer https://archive.org/details/socialism-with-chinese-characteristics
Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think.
pretty sure this was a tagline previously, lmfao
Fair.
And I don’t like echo chamers. So I shall block.
“blocking because tankies told me to touch grass, read Mao and then they called me a liberal and sent me a picture of a pig with shit on its testicles”
sounds more like you want to exist in an echo chamber that reaffirms your previously held beliefs
but also who cares? do you announce every time you tie your shoes as well?
“I don’t like echo chambers, so I’m going to silence people who disagree with me!”
