I hate to say it, but I think to most people I probably look like a chud. Anyone who has known me for more than 4 seconds knows I’m not, but I’m afraid I still visibly give off that vibe. I’m a man, or think I’m probably nonbinary tbh, but I still present and appear fully masculine, close to 40, full beard and mostly just wear plain dark t-shirts with no logo and dark jeans. I do have shoulder-length long hair, but so have plenty of chuds I’ve been acquainted with. I don’t have any sense of style and have never tried to learn or care about fashion, but no disrespect to those who do.
I probably shouldn’t care, but I hate knowing that when I’m around people they probably think I’m a reddit gamer or worse. Should I try to change my appearance or should I just learn not to give shit? Does anyone else here worry about that?
I’m also going to be getting glasses in the next few days and have to decide on a frame. What should I get to try to minimize chud appearance? I have kind of a squarish face but maybe a bit rounder now as I get older. Do certain kinds of glasses scream redditor or chud? Any advice on what I should go for is welcome.
Edit- Thank you for the advice to everyone who commented I really appreciate it. I am afraid I might have given the wrong impression on some of it so to clarify, I’ll just quote one of my responses
I do want to look unassuming. I’m pretty bad with social anxiety and most of the time I just want to go unnoticed. But I worry even that in going unnoticed I’ll give off the wrong impression. Chud is an extreme I probably shouldn’t have used because I don’t think anyone would ever look at me and think gun totin’ confederate flag waving chud or wannabe cop or some shit.
The worry is looking more like the aloof redditor, new athiest or even altright leaning brand of chud, or maybe I’m using the word chud wrong. As far as the nonbinary thing, that’s a lot to get into, but just as far as dress style, I don’t really want to look masculine OR feminine. I used to wear more feminine coded things when I was younger, but these days I feel like the plainer the better. I do have some leftist t-shirts, but I save those for certain occasions or when I’m going to be around certain people, or even trying to do leftist signaling without libs knowing with my All Cats are Beautiful shirt. Most of the time all I wear is a plain dark color with NO messaging at all not even a visible logo. I guess it’s less that I want to indicate my politics and more that I don’t want to announce the wrong politics when I’m just going about my day.
To be totally honest, I posted mostly because of the glasses I’ll be getting and I don’t want frames that make me look like Vaush.
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If you make this face, stop making this face
Then how else am I supposed to greet the clerk at the grocery store checkout counter?Resting chud face
Not the most useful info, i know, but i’m very similar. Most people would assume i’m sort of chud or prepper type if you based it on looks alone. However, i’m laughing, joking around, smiling, dancing around, and generally willing to entertain any conversation with someone. If there’s one thing I know, working in a field where the average person has hitler particles physically emanating from them, is that chuds are fucking miserable. Constantly complaining, getting angry at absolutely nothing, and lashing out at everyone all the time. Just being willing to strike up a convo and have a laugh is what gets people to trust you.
I’m with you on all of that. If people are around me for a little bit and talk to me, I’d like to think it becomes clear quick that I’m not a miserable chud. I’m more talking about just being out and around strangers when there isn’t much direct interacting going on.
I mean, it’s one of those things of how you hold yourself. I carry myself very proudly. Straight spine, confident gait, etc. You know? But, it seems that i always have a positive attitude and smile a lot that brings people in. I can straight up talk communist talking points to people with barely any censorship, and they just end up agreeing the entire time. Presentation is more than aesthetics, i guess is what i’m saying. Be the big hard worker, and push for pro ML talking points on the coffee breaks when you can is what i guess i’m saying
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Yes! Good answer. I even meant to put it in the post that I do still mask in any indoor public places. That is probably a nonchud indicator and I’m glad that me still giving a shit about immunocompromised people and my own well being also has that side benefit. But I think most people don’t know what to even make of it since libs also hate masks now and most around here aren’t even aware there is anything left of liberal. It makes me wonder if some people just see hypochondriac chud when they see me with a mask.
Nah, people (sadly) just see you as “that weirdo with a mask.” You’re kinda outside the political spectrum to most people. It’s like if you’re running around wearing only a loincloth.
nail polish, instant vibe changer
That is a good one and I used to do that when I was younger but I’d feel like a poser doing it now. I try not to stand out most of the time, but maybe that’s the problem.
no such thing as a poser, you can rock it i promise
Palestine pin? Rainbow pin? plenty of little ways you can signal you’re normal
That’s a good idea. Part of my issue is I never want to stand out or be noticed, I just also don’t want to give bad vibes. But showing solidarity is good and important. I should try to get over myself, and that’s a small but meaningful way to do both.
A friend even gave me a keffiyeh but other than at protests it feels like just wearing it around is like cultural appropriation or something on top of very much making me stand out.
From your description you sound more metal than chud.
I hope so. 90s grunge was more my default even if I missed that scene by long shot.
I second the nail polish rec if you’re cool with that. If you wanted to, you could do non-natural hair color, too.
if you do dye your hair, take care of it! maybe it’s a regional issue but i’ve seen maybe two regular guys ever with dyed hair that looked good for more than a week and knowing i wouldn’t take care of it is why i never did anything “permanent” like that.
I should have said this in the post, but I also tend not to want to stand out and just be mostly unassuming and that’s where it can be tricky. I actually did used to dye my hair blue and green in my teens and early twenties as well as try to do designs with nail polish. But now it just doesn’t really fit me. Guess I’m an old stick in the mud.
I wouldn’t worry. It might actually work in your favour because they’ll assume you believe one thing and then you can surprise them
I mean having a beard doesn’t automatically make you a chud, and I wouldn’t clock you as one based on how you describe yourself, so I personally wouldn’t worry about it. BUT, if it bothers you it bothers you and if you want to change up how you look then so be it. Or, is this about looking like a chud, or just not feeling as comfy dressing unassuming and masculine? You bring up possibly being nonbinary, so just a thought.
Usually things that flag people as chuds to me are: T-Shirts with stupid corny jokes on them about guns, beer, women, “don’t tread on me”, “come and take it” type shit, white power symbols… Also shirts/hats/bumper stickers etc. with the American flag on it unless it’s like, super small or an elderly person. Also glasses that look like these lol. Perhaps bootcut jeans too, that’s a stretch and idk why but it is sus to me
If you want to “look more leftist” I guess it would just be t-shirt signaling, really, or backpack patches, stickers on your water bottle if you always have one on you, or something. Leftist/alternative band t-shirts, if there are any local leftist orgs/mutual aid groups or like nonprofits that do good work in your community that sell swag, those can be good indicators. Or you can get spicier, SRA shirt, “kill your local nazi shirt”, something like that.
Or, is this about looking like a chud, or just not feeling as comfy dressing unassuming and masculine?
I do want to look unassuming. I’m pretty bad with social anxiety and most of the time I just want to go unnoticed. But I worry even that in going unnoticed I’ll give off the wrong impression. Chud is an extreme I probably shouldn’t have used because I don’t think anyone would ever look at me and think gun totin’ confederate flag waving chud or wannabe cop or some shit. Fortunately I have not a single one of the things you listed as your flags of chuds, even the bootcut jeans.
The worry is looking more like the aloof redditor, new athiest or even altright leaning brand of chud, or maybe I’m using the word chud wrong. As far as the nonbinary thing, that’s a lot to get into, but just as far as dress style, I don’t really want to look masculine OR feminine. I used to wear more feminine coded things when I was younger, but these days I feel like the plainer the better. I do have some leftist t-shirts, but I save those for certain occasions or when I’m going to be around certain people, or even trying to do leftist signaling without libs knowing with my All Cats are Beautiful shirt. Most of the time all I wear is a plain dark color with NO messaging at all not even a visible logo. I guess it’s less that I want to indicate my politics and more that I don’t want to announce the wrong politics when I’m just going about my day.
To be totally honest, I posted mostly because of the glasses I’ll be getting and I don’t want frames that make me look like Vaush.
What you suggested is all great advice for looking leftist though and because you suggested it, I’ll see if there’s a local org selling lefty merch as a means of support.
haha well yeah, I guess if you avoid those glasses then you’ll be fine! I wouldn’t even think twice about that either, though, Vaush is really such a super niche “celebrity” I guess you could say. Only people who know who he is might make the connection but even then it would be a small number of those people.
Honestly, lumberjack wear and canadian tuxedos are a winning duo for you. It’s always in fashion, and it’s practical. Maybe some workwear clothes to even out the closed. Flannel can go from thin to thick.
Contrary idea, go full
but Chinese flagsYou are enough as you are now and you should be kinder to yourself.
Now for some suggestions:
Regarding glasses I suggest getting two pairs, if possible, for the purpose of redundancy. If one is broken or gets lost having a second pair will prevent it from becoming a catastrophe. One of those pairs should be fun. Fun can mean a lot of things, it can be an interesting shape or an uncommon color or something else. There are guides out there about matching face shape to lens shape but its all up to you, trust your judgement.
Accessories! 4th Reich dudes dont really go around with bracelets and necklaces, and they tend to avoid piercings. If you want to get your ears pierced its inexpensive, the aftercare is easy and the healing process is quick, plus there are a zillion options for earrings. If you’ve ever considered something more adventureous like a brow piercing or what have you, go for it! It can be a very liberating experience.
Pins are very explicitly state where you stand and what you believe in. Its extremely rare to be challenged for whatever pins youre wearing and it is very common to recieve compliments over them. I can personally attest that many trans people notice, and greatly appreciate it when people wear symbols that indicate their allyship.
I also think that you (and many others) would benefit from developing a personal sense of style. Confidence in the way one presents themselves translates into confidence in general. It’s easier than you might think, although it takes time and a little effort. I have some pointers on that if youre interested.
Addendum: yes also wearing masks is a pretty strong signal AND they serve a practical purpose. Its really nice basically never getting sick.
Big back on personal sense of style. And that can be something that other people have done if it works for you. Im certainly not doing anything new. I either look like a crust punk or a memer of the ocelot unit from mgs3 minus headgear. My standard punk look is actually even a bit different than the more modern 1000 stud count kawakami worship and more late 80s to early crust look. Less studs and band shirts more dry rotting old denim and black button ups that are missing a sleeve or whatever
Should I try to change my appearance or should I just learn not to give shit?
Dress how you want to comrade, whatever you’re comfortable in. You’re probably worrying about something that’s not really necessary.
May your field of fucks to give be barren.
Red Star T-shirt or a Mao shirt, everyone and their brother has a Che shirt.
about the Che shirt. I don’t want to announce to everyone I’m a clueless radlib. A red star or Mao shirt I might wear when I want to announce I’m a commie, which I do in some circumstances. I already have some leftist and vegan animal rights messaging shirts I do wear on occasion. But in most circumstances I just want to blend in, just not blend in as a background chud.
You’re probably worrying about something that isn’t there. I sincerely doubt anyone is gonna assume youre a chud just cause of that look. A lot of perfectly cool people also rock that look. If i could be bold I think the commonality with chuds that you’re worried about is having no sense of style. All black clothes and no logo just sounds like people would think youre into metal based on the rest of your look.
So if you wanna keep going on the sol black thing and make thet work that’s how I dress so i can say what I do at least. My shirts are either borderline rags or black button up dress shirts. I cut the collar and at least half the sleeve off of em, theyre also mostly punk band shirts. I’ll get into making your own graphics later. For pants, skinny is best, baggy black pants kinda just look like a blob cause its harder to see the folds and stuff that can make baggy lighter pants look cooler (im anti baggy for pants regardless but I get a baggy blue jean better than a baggy black jeans. Having a jacket that goes with most of what you wear also rules. I recommend getting 2 nice black jeans jackets that fit good and turning one into a vest for summer time. Then you’re all black but the different fabric and tones will add some distinction. I don’t give a shit about shoes, but don’t wear white ones with all black unless you need to. I mostly wear nondescript non slip sneakers that I get tax write-offs for cause of my job and have engineer boots that are the only thing I shelled out any real money for.
For graphics id start by learning to stencil and then see if anywhere in your town has a screen printing workshop you could take part in. Or just buy the gear. Its worth it.
For stencils, make or find a design and make it stencil friendly. In grocery stores around the plastic wraps and stuff you can find something called freezer paper, its cheap af and the important part is its waxed on just one side. So you can draw your design on the unwaxed side, cut it out with an exacto knife and then use an iron or even just a the bottom of a pot you heated up a bit on the stove to melt the waxed side down. Then you can just go over it with a paint roller. The wax will keep the paint from seeping through l. Just make sure to seal around the graphic real good for clean lines. You can get fabric paint at any art store, it costs a bit but you can dilute it with regular cheap acrylic to 2/3rds acrylic although you’ll get a top layer that will either flake or wash off, what’s underneath should be sturdy. I still have patches and stuff I made back in high school 20 years ago that look fine.
If i could be bold I think the commonality with chuds that you’re worried about is having no sense of style
This is it exactly. You nailed what the concern really is.
As for the rest, that is really detailed awesome advice thank you. Hopefully at some point I will want to actually develop some sort of style and what you’re describing is in line with what I imagined that might be like, so I’m saving this comment and hopefully referring back to it. But for the moment, I just wanted to not be too visible while also not giving off a redditor vibe, but maybe that’s not possible. Might be one of those things a person just has to put the work into if they don’t want to garner the wrong impressions.
If you’re having fun with it, that comes through and can be enough until you get a look locked down. Person Trying Out a Look when they’re out there trying to to get a feel for it is nice to see. For the most part the amount people don’t give a shit how you look is pretty amazing, everyone has their own shit to deal with. They’ll either enjoy that youre playing dress up or who needs em?
Engineer boot punx rise up. I almost exclusively wear black vans and its such an adjustment to wear clunky boots lol I love them so much though. Who do you get hours from? Or have you just lucked out with hand me downs/thrift shops?
Went in on an order with a friend over a decade ago. Not sure where from. Its the only article of clothes aside from socks or underwear I haven’t gotten from a roadside giveaway box in about that long as well. I live in a college town so at the end of each semester theres major scores. I got a fantastic double breasted peacoat from a box that had been my main winter jacket for years. It’s high quality af and was just missing a button. There’s a pointless strap on the back with 4 buttons that aren’t doing anything, I just took 3 off and put one on the important part.
I’ve never gone out for hippie christmas I really should’ve done it this year, I have friends who have found like $300 boots and guitars and shit in the dumpsters. People are so wasteful but at least they were come ups for someone else
A hammer and sickle tattoo
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A tattoo of Yahya Sinwar’s face like the shark in that one Slammer meme
A tattoo of a full-sized poster from the Cultural Revolution down the front of their torso
