“Some of you may be willing to die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” but unironically

Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285

  • uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    If you really believe this then you are a deeply unserious person with a goldfish memory. Putin is an entirely rational actor whose position has been clear ever since he was first elected, who has often been forced to change course in reaction to the United States’ decades of provocations. If we had extended a glad hand to him instead of continuing to surround and isolate him he’d be a member of the EU and NATO would be completely focused on China.

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      Remind me, where were Russian forces marching in February last year? It was some city… A capital even. Started with a K.

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            Yea it’s deffinitly that and not the fact they had taken the territory they stated from the start they were trying to take.

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              Yes the stunning military victory knows as “retreat from Kyiv”

              As you say this I imagine you standing on an aircraft carrier with a big banner behind reading “mission accomplished”

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                That’s fucking hilarious because Kyiv not falling in a week has been touted as a Ukrainian victory even though it was them who set that goal and them literally declaring victory while the russians actually accomplished all their stated goals.

                Since your such a military genius it’s weird how the concept of cutting supply lines to the territories you’re trying to take is an unfamiliar concept. Obviously they weren’t trying to stop supplies to the actual contested regions they were just yoloing a mission to a capital they never claimed as a goal for no apparent reason.

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      Damn this is like, triple-distilled Kremlin Copium Reserve right here. Putin is an entirely rational actor? Lmfao! Is that why he picked a fight with a country a quarter the size of his and got a black eye? Is that why he flip-flopped in the Budapest memorandum? Is that why he blew up Priggy and pals for everyone to see?

      Also, what kinda American provocations are you talking about? Was it the billions in IMF money Russia got in the 90s? That was provocative for sure. Or is it when they sent a spy to infiltrate your ruling party? Oh wait, Butina was Russian, it was the other way around, nevermind.

      • uralsolo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        I don’t think you understand what “rational actor” means. Provocations include, but are not limited to, expanding NATO into countries which we promised we wouldn’t while denying Russia membership, cutting off their allies via international deals in order to isolate them, and maintaining a nuclear first strike policy which is the only one of its kind in the world.