• abc [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      its ok if the bug game was your first metroidvania and your attachment to its means, in your eyes, that it will never be topped but it is nowhere near the greatest of its genre and i’d go so far as to say it’s mediocre. You could probably stack the top 5 solely with various Castlevania and Metroid games, but I won’t do that (although I think Dread and Aria of Sorrow deserve 3/4)

      • Super Metroid
      • SotN
      • Ori
      • Prince of Persia Lost Crown
      • fuck it, Nine Sols
      • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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        Edit: I feel bad about how pissy my comment is. Ori (and soma) are my gaming sore spots, but I really need to let that go, because who gives a fuck? They’re games I spent too much time with and still ended up hating, but other people like them and that’s fine, I don’t have to be an asshole every time either one is brought up, I know I like games that other people hate, that comes with being humans with different tastes and life experiences

        There is no world where Ori is better than Hollow Knight. I despised Ori and the Blind Forest. I hated its story, I hated its movement (I probably could have gotten used to that), I hated its combat (apparently even Ori likers agree that combat is bad), I hated its art style, I hated its map, I hated how checkpoints and healing worked, I hated everything about it. There is nothing good about Ori and the Blind Forest in my mind, and I’m still grumpy, years later, that I spent so much of my time trying to like it.

        I think it’s possible I actually don’t like metroidvanias, I just like whatever the fuck Hollow Knight is. True, I’ve never played a Castlevania or Metroid game, so I can’t really say until I do so, but if you, a person who likes metroidvanias, think that Ori and the Blind Forest was a better metroidvania than Hollow Knight, then yeah, I’m not sure I like metroidvanias.

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          Super Metroid is free and runs on anything with a screen and buttons at this point. It’s also an all time great game, play it already.

          I don’t have a dog in the Ori v HN fight, having played neither.

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              Enjoy!

              There’s kind of a reason not to play the original NES Metroid, it sucks in a very limitations of 8 bit hardware way. Fortunately, there’s Zero Mission.

              • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]@hexbear.net
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                Ah fair enough! I’ll skip NES Metroid then! (Thanks for saying it, I have a bad habit of wanting to always start with the first title in a series, even if that’s a really bad idea)

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                  Zero Mission is a remake of NES Metroid for the GBA with an extended ending. If you really want to play the classic Metroid games in order I’d do Zero Mission, AM2R, Super Metroid, then Metroid Fusion.

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Nine sols has peak combat, cool character design,and interesting story, but it’s not really a good metroidvania. The exploration and platforming is not great, and the core point of metroidvania where you return to areas and unlock new places with new abilities is pretty minimal.

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        Hot take, SotN is a fantastic game but it’s also a pretty mid metroidvania since a bunch of the equipment is useless but also some of it is completely fucking broken and also there’s no way in hell you’d figure out the inverted castle shit on your own ever, you’d have to see it online or in a magazine or a game guide or some shit