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deforestgump [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago

Trump floats changing Defense Department to Department of War: "We want to be offensive, too, if we have to be"

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Trump floats changing Defense Department to Department of War: "We want to be offensive, too, if we have to be"

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deforestgump [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to chapotraphouse@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 days ago
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President Trump on Monday floated returning the Department of Defense to its prior name, the Department of War, calling its current moniker "too defensive."
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  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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    Yk what, the mask coming off isn’t the worst thing in the world. It was always the department of war after all

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    isn’t this what it used to be called?

    seems like another reboot. why not an upgrade? Department of Extermination Overkill

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      Israhell Defense Force

      since it does more of that than the IOF does

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Peace through strength

  • stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    100% support this change.

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    It’s kind of interesting that for all that libs reference 1984 when talking about Trump, calling it the “Department of Defense” was Orwellian in a literal sense, and this change is very anti-Orwellian. I’ve long grown past Orwell’s work, but both his essays and 1984 extemporize on the way governments use language to obscure the true intentions of their actions and mangle the ability of the populace to understand or describe what they’re seeing. As such, all the governmental departments in 1984 do the opposite of what they say they are: the Ministry of Truth systematically lies to people, the Ministry of Peace makes war, etc.

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      Trump: War is war. Freedom is freedom. Ignorance is ignorance.

      Libs who don’t even read their own canon of fictional works: This is just like 1984.

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      When is he going to replace USAID with USAIL

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      Kinda crazy how a work whose core message is about how language can be weapbonised to make certain ideas impossible to express has had its symbols weaponised by the ruling hegemony to stamp out competing ideas.

      The way the cultural hegemony assimilates counter-cultural works proves more than anything that the superstructure is built upon the base. So long as the capitalists control the means of communication, real rebellion against their ideas can only be temporary.

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    He is so good at saying the quiet part out loud

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    Always said Trump was the naked expression of US-Imperialism. He doesn’t bother dressing up US Empire, with “human rights” and “Democracy”.

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    I already find the Department of Defense to be very offensive.

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    This is so predictable, libs will act like this is beyond reproach the pale, authoritarian, and that no previous, respectable presidents would do this. Leftists will then point out that the DoD was call the Department of War until 1949, and the libs will then “ah well nevertheless.”

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      Then when a liberal wins back office, they will waffle on changing it but some minor admin or procedural rule will ‘prevent’ them from doing anything

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        senate parmesantarian said no liberalism

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      beyond reproach

      I’m not sure this is what you’re intending to say, it would mean they thought it couldn’t be criticized. beyond the pale?

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        Yeah that makes sense, me no English good

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    You don’t have to hand it to him but yknow.

    also itll waste millions on stationary and shit lol

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      TBF that shit gets changed all the time anyway whenever there’s a department reorganization or new top brass gets hired/promoted.

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      if I said what he should be handed I would get a visit from sunglass-wearing mormons with bad haircuts

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      Lathing Trump changing the names of random federal departments every month

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    This was literally something proposed by Mike Gravel in 2020 lol

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      Damn I wonder what the Gravel boys are up to?

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        One of them is Dylan Burns who’s a liberal imperialist and a zionist

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    President Harry Truman pushed for different branches of service to be combined into a single Department of National Defense in 1947, telling Congress the move was necessary to “cut costs and at the same time enhance our national security.”

    Emphasis mine.

    This is somehow the funniest part of the article for me. The bourgeois obsession of cost-cuttinf is as old as the bourgeoise themselves.

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      the bourgeois obsession with talking about cost cutting while grifting the government even harder, you mean

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    masking off as its own reward

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    So other than the name, there’s literally no change.

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    Can we replace “Human Resources” with “Personell” too?

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      nothing personnel, kid

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      No, humans are resources to be exploited. Human capital stock

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      The company I work for changed the department’s name to People capitalist-woke

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        Lol my employer calls the department “People Experience”, or PX (a riff on UX).

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          dennis-stare

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      Meat cogs :D

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    Literally the opposite of 1984 - War is now war again!

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