• Soyweiser@awful.systems
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    23 hours ago

    That he keeps claiming it was about him, despite being told it wasn’t is just so odd.

    But hey, mirrors how they talk about sneerclub as their personal nemesis (despite SC talking about all lot of them and now awful.systems being more general).

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      11 hours ago

      Like, I could completely understand being like “I’m not comfortable with you using my name for something like this. Even though you say it’s not about me there are enough similarities to the character that it could easily mislead people - myself included, as you can see - into thinking otherwise.” There is a reasonable version of this, but insisting that “lol someone wrote a play about me” and using it for clout years later is peak sneerable behavior.

      Also I want to sneer at Yud not understanding the concept of Off-Off-Broadway vs Off-Broadway but TBH I don’t understand the way that different tiers of theatrical prestige connect and can only assume that it’s like the circles of hell in Dante’s Inferno.

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        I mean I even get that you would use some embellishment for entertainment value. But if the person who made the play writes you and corrects you, you should stop doing that, esp if you are doing the whole Rationalism. But yeah, that isn’t what the rich and powerful do, they make up shit and ignore corrections all the time. The power of being stubborn.

        A while back somebody from themotte (when it still was on reddit) said about sneerclub vs themotte that the sneerclub wanted to do what is right, and they wanted to figure out what is true. And I often think about that when people in the Rationalist space do not really want to figure out what is true.

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        FWIW my understanding is the “Off”-ness is just decreasing theatre size, but gets (mis)construed as less prestige/fame/quality etc. Fame is probably fine for construing, but prestige/quality is orthogonal. Like you could conceivably have absolute theatre mega stars do an epoch-defining production in an intimate 50-seat theatre or something, and that would still be “Off-off-broadway”.

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      21 hours ago

      Is it really odd, though? If someone wrote a play where the main character was named after me, was doing the same work I did, and was obsessed with the same particular field of study I was, and then the author tried to claim the play wasn’t “about” me, I’d press X to doubt too.

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        21 hours ago

        Well you would because, like Yud, you jumped to your own conclusions without actually reading the fucking article.

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          20 hours ago

          Which article? You mean the linked Bluesky thread? Or the cringeworthy OkCupid post linked from it? It’s because I read the thread that I thought “yeah, in Yud’s position, I’d doubt the author’s protestations too” 😆

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            20 hours ago

            The one that includes this:

            So I responded in the SL4 (which for the life of me I can’t dig up) & went to the trouble of emailing Yudkowski directly, explaining that 1) no I didn’t write about your life but 2) if you happen to be in NYC, I’d love it if he’d attend the play. I also attached a copy of the script in the email 7/x

            (which is way more good faith than Yud deserves, btw)

            I thought “yeah, in Yud’s position […]

            Best stop this thinking before you suffer the same levels of delusion of reference and/or grandeur.

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              19 hours ago

              Yeah if you read the reviews the singularity is more a bit of a godot situation than something Yudi fears and has doubts over, which is a bit different than Yud who created the ‘we must make sure it is friendly’ institute earlier.

              Bit like making a play about Jack Thompson but in the play he reviews video games.

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                18 hours ago

                I don’t know who Jack Thompson is, so just pretend that I came up with some incredible, witty interleaving of references to waiting for godot, the torment nexus meme, and Jack Thompson

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                  18 hours ago

                  It was the guy angry about videogames. Just an ancient reference nothing special sadly. Just a random guy most people thought was wrong. Turns out GTA isnt a cop killing training simulator.

                  Of course the newest gta release is turning into a waiting for godot situation. (Apparently it was delayed again, not my game series, only liked the first two)

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        18 hours ago

        You must be one of those strange people who Paul Graham and Thiel get all excited about, who communicate entirely in memes