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I think the article’s subject – hypocrisy over cruelty and violence – is a much bigger “problem with progressivism” than gatekeeping/purity tests. Let me ask you, is this a view you adopt because it makes it easier for you to avoid that cruelty and violence, or because it helps you excuse it?
Neither
Fair enough, but it could still be said that from a functional perspective, such a position serves more to rationalize abuse rather than motivate its avoidance. But I’m sure it’s a coincidence you’ve come here to post what could be seen as carnist apologia, when really you just mean to criticize the circle jerking.
I just commented because I saw something in my feed
and it triggered your cognitive dissonance which you addressed through well-practiced defense mechanisms, which is fine, right up until the point where you inflict your coping on us. The lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others.
Do you use linux?
Please report any carnists or carnist-apologists so we can ban them from this community ASAP.
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You’re not the victim in this. I know it sounds harsh, but I just don’t know what else to reply. We’re facing a polycrisis, our biosphere is collapsing and people won’t even take responsibility for what they put in their stomaches. I’m getting impatient with all the sensitivities.
Being vegan doesn’t stop me from binging on unhealthy food, it just limits my options a bit.
Going vegan is easier than losing weight. To lose weight, you have to eat less, which goes against everything evolution selected you for; to go vegan, you have to start eating different things, which evolution did prepare you for. You only have to fight psychological addictions to meat and stuff, which is fairly easy if you actually look at how it is produced - I am now disgusted by it and so it takes 0 effort to stay away from it.
Obesity is a natural reaction to an unnatural food environment. You get fat because you eat processed food that has way too much energy (calories like fat and sugar) and too little nutrition and bulk. If you just eat less junk, as you already said, your stomach is half empty and you will feel hungry all the time. Nobody can live like that for long. So the only option to lose weight forever is changing your diet to Whole food plant based. This is not me being smart, but science.
There’s lots of ways I fail to take care of myself. But no matter how lazy I get, I am never even slightly tempted to kick children, rob the elderly, or murder vulnerable individuals. The fact that you see your weight loss the same way you see your needless cruelty and violence simply means you have not allowed yourself to actually process the monstrous things you do, which are exactly the same monstrous things the audience you are speaking to USED to do. WTF did you think we were gonna say?? Did you think you were going to get a pass because it’s just sooooo hard for you??
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