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    They’re not totally wrong though. A huge share of the goods the Caribbean pirates “stole” didn’t belong to their “victims” anyway. In fact, most of it had previously been stolen from the native Americans who had been conquered and killed or extorted from slaves on the plantations. Stealing from a robber isn’t stealing imho.

    Another, more modern example are the pirates of Somalia, who originally were fishermen. Only when foreign ships came into their waters to steal their fish and dispose toxic waste, they began to arm themselves to “steal” their own goods back.

    Disney on the other hand

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        Good luck bringing back a treasure to the rightful owner, when the rightful owner has been killed along with his family. Also, usually the thieves would not write “stolen from person X in Y” on their gold bars.

        And let’s not forget that a non-negligible part of the pirates were in fact former slaves that either fled on their own or have been freed directly by other pirates. So they basically fought their previous “owners”.

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        Yeah let’s not pretend they were some noble boat robin hoods they just stole what they could find it just so happened to be a lot of slave made stuff

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      Explain to me how overfishing and dumping by neighbour countries somehow justifies taking hostage a ship transporting goods from China to Europe?

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        If you steal my food and poison my soil until my family is starving, you shouldn’t be surprised when I come back at you. And don’t expect me to steal the fish back, that you’ve already eaten. Of cause I’ll take whatever I can get hold of.

        It weren’t primarily neighbour countries, it were especially European and Chinese vessels that were doing that shit.

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        Others take my means of getting food.

        I take shit and food from others.

        Don’t care about justification. That’s just what they do.

        Try to live and probably since no-one really stops them continue to do so.

        You could provide alternative ways to earn money if you want to.

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    If you’re downloading content off the internet, you’re not a pirate. The real pirates are the ones that find the sources and leak them.

    Everyone else seemingly calling themselves “pirate” is a freeloader, including me.

    No need to self-aggrandize clicking a “download torrent/magnet link” button.

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    This is (somewhat) paradoxical.

    • A practically good pirate would steal stuff
    • A morally good pirate would not steal stuff
    • A practically bad pirate would not steal stuff
    • A morally bad pirate would steal stuff.

    So you have to be bad to be good and good to be bad.

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    Which kinda mean downloading Disney movie and series isn’t bad, because i didn’t take it from them, i merely copy from the internet and their stuff is still there, and seed share the thing i like.

    I AM a good pirate.

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              It took the right lessons from Treasure Island in making the pirates incredibly likeable while still being all-around terrible people. Sparrow and Barbossa, plus their crew, absolutely stole the show from the actual leads. Combine that with surprisingly good writing and an amazing score and it ended up one of my favorite films despite being based on a theme park ride.

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          In a world without global connectivity think how much this would mean? Mean he was probably harassing the British so maybe not as much as it could…

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    They understand perfectly. This is called propaganda. They are trying to brainwash kids into not being good pirates.