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A series of Tweets, each a reply to the previous.

  1. ABC News @ABC: Scientists have discovered a giant new species of stick insect in Australia, which is over 15 inches long and researchers say may be the heaviest insect in the country. [With a picture of a brown stick insect among some green leaves.]
  2. mary @theoceanblooms: can I ask a question: how does something like this go undiscovered until now
  3. soul nate @MNateShyamalan: Entomologist here 🙋‍♂️🤓🐜 Great question! It may seem surprising that the scientific community could miss an entire bug species after all this time, especially when it’s THIS big. The answer might surprise you more 👀 Let’s dive in 👇🧵 (1/?)
  4. soul nate @MNateShyamalan: he look like stick (2/2)
    • Kalothar@lemmy.ca
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      4 hours ago

      Or ChatGPT is modeled after this kind of excited teacher behavior as a base for the way it interacts with users

      • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Go for it.

        I hereby waive all copyright and related or neighboring rights together with all associated claims and causes of action with respect to this work to the extent possible under the law.

  • Liz@midwest.social
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    The answer is that we don’t fund science at the rate that we should, especially not bug science. Want discoveries? Gotta pay someone to actually do the work.

  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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    How could an animal that has perfected <evading detection> evade our detection?

    Truly the noodlest of noodle scratchers.

    • treadful@lemmy.zip
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      24 hours ago

      But humans love to pick up sticks. How has nobody picked this guy up by accident?

      • luciferofastora@feddit.org
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        I wish there was some kind of “Unitendified species discovered! +5 achievement points” thing in real life. As it is, unless the correct people pick it up, odds are nobody would know or care if it’s a known species.

        Do you take the time to carefully identify and classify every bug you come across? I don’t have the skills for it, nor frankly the enthusiasm to spend time acquiring and applying them, and I’m confident that applies to most people.

      • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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        : gathering kindling:

        : grab a good looking stick:

        : it suddenly thrashes about and bites you:

        : drop it whilst shitting pants:

        : tell no one:

      • ButteryMonkey@piefed.social
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        They probably have.

        But if you came across a random bug, especially a big one like that, wouldn’t you assume other people already knew about it? I would.

        I mean sure you might take a pic and send it to a few people, but they would probably also assume it’s known.

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
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    24 hours ago

    They live high up in the tree canopy. Not like people missed a monster bug walking down the trail.

    • BastingChemina@slrpnk.net
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      21 hours ago

      Wasn’t there a story where scientists sprayed a whole tree with insecticide in the rainforest and they discovered tenths of new bug species?

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    how does something like this go undiscovered until now

    I don’t know the specifics of this particular insect’s origin story, but for a surprising number of insects & arthropods, the answer can be summarized as “nobody bothered to look closely enough”.

    Sometimes that’s a literal fact – the critter is so well disguised, lives in a remote or hard to reach location, or is so uncommon that nobody’s ever noticed it before. But with surprising frequency, it’s a case where previously undiscovered species have been right under our noses (or feet or rocks in our suburban yards) this whole time and we simply did not realize it. It’s not that we don’t notice them, just that nobody’s ever taken the time to really study them enough to spot the differences from one closely related species to the next so we simply assumed they’re all the same.

    For example, there are species of beetles that about the only reliable way to tell them apart is to count the hairs on their butt when they are larvae. As adults, they are nearly indistinguishable. Now imagine that nobody ever took the time to study larval butt hair.I guess what I’m saying is, we need more funding for bug butt hair and general bug butt hair awareness, because it’s a thing.

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      Without going into what “species” means exactly - because I know that’s complicated - can you explain why those beetles are different species despite being nearly identical as adults? Is it just that they cannot interbreed?

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    Last time this meme came up I had the perfectly worded Disco Elysium quote ready, but I’ve forgotten it. So just pretend I said it right now.

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    People put far too much faith the idea that we as a society know most, or even all there is to know. Humanity has advanced far and increasingly faster in recent years, but we still know basically nothing in terms of the grand scale of things to discover and know.

    Even now, our methods of discovering things like new species are far less advanced than people like this probably imagine - it basically boils down to time, persistence, and luck.

  • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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    22 hours ago

    We pay millions out to researchers just to look at sticks, leaves, and rocks to determine if they are bugs or not. Wait, that’s wrong …

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    If that was found in Australia, it’s -Poisonous -Venomous

    • Chlamydic
    • aggressive and bitey
    • invasive

    One or more of the above. No exceptions.