On no fewer than three separate occasions I’ve been accused of propagating “Russian talking points” when I make verifiable, factual statements about the war in Ukraine. Three different people, three different occasions, but they all repeat the same shit.

Where does this come from? Is this Rachel Maddow lib slop, or something more widespread? I have never once heard this phrase used in any media that I consume, only as a thought-and-conversation terminating “rebuttal” and a way to avoid engaging with the actual substance of what I am saying about the war.

The irony of course is that “Russian talking points” is itself a talking point so it is, as usual, just projection projection

It’s like some sort of propagandist got a list of all the inconvenient facts about Ukraine (nazis, lack of democracy, corruption, etc etc) and then just slapped a ‘RUSSIAN TALKING POINTS’ sticker onto them and delivered the package to libs all over the world.

But, seriously, WHERE DOES THIS ORIGINATE?

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    27 days ago

    The most interesting thing about the “Russian talking point” thing, is that it doesn’t even claim that the talking point is wrong, just implies that because even if it is true, the enemy saying it means that you shouldn’t acknowledge it.

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      27 days ago

      They also did this with “Republican talking points” such as Biden’s being a corpse. I remember hearing a story about how once it became a more mainstream story that WMDs were a lie, the line from the administration is that saying that – even if it’s true! – is just what the terrorists want and it’s bad for morale, so then the media almost completely stopped talking about it for a couple of years.